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Michelle Noffze, Rochester, MN — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:32:05 GMT

I was offended by the interview regarding Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary offering courses in homemaking, but not for the reasons that women do choose to stay at home and pursue a degree in homemaking, but for the reason that women "shouldn't" choose to have a degree in it. With parents who both working outside the homne and daycare as the mainstream, girls are not growing up being 'taught' how to keep a home. I am a product of working parents and did NOT learn how to keep a home. My parents struggled raising us and so in turn I struggled and was overwhelmed with the prospect of children and staying at home. I had NONE of the skills needed and muddled through making so many grievous errors that my current family suffered because of it. I'm offended by groups that say that women should have a degree that 'could' sustain them "IF" anything ever happened that they would need it. What about the homemaking degree that actually applies to their everyday life and not the "if" factor. I'm offended that women's groups would shun this type of degree when so many women would benefit from having an knowledge base BEFORE the experience of homemaking. I am one voice, but a voice in support of our nations professionals putting their effort into teaching our future generations the one thing that the working world is fazing out of our everyday life. A Mom to come home to.

Michelle
Rochester, MN

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David Goodnight, Lake Dallas, TX — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:35:18 GMT

I have been a viewer of The Today Show for years...when my family visited New York City in 2001, we went to the plaza, and Ann Curry hugged our youngest son who was 9 at the time...not only have we been viewers of the show for years, we've been fans of both The Today Show and Ann. This morning, I was troubled by this interview. Ann and Ms. Hamman interrupted Mr. Williams and would not let him finish a single point he attempted to make. I got the feeling they were both very biased on the issue, and I was very disappointed with the one sided way the whole interview was handled. I'm not going to mention any of my feelings about the topic of discussion...I just feel that The Today Show and Ann fell short on this one.

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James Doran, Footville, WI — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:36:59 GMT

I am a man. I am divorced. I find this course sexist. I agree with Ms. Hamman that this course and courses like it only keep woman "bare-foot and pregnant." However, I am not surprised that a fundimental group like the Southern Baptist would want to keep the power male-based.

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misty, McLouth, Ks — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:37:07 GMT

It was disturbing to me that Mr. Williams was basically walked(talked)all over. I happen to get sick of complaining women, who seem to think this could in any way "set women back". I am a stay at home mom, and would give my right arm to have the opprotunity to learn these things. My mother was unable, as many are, to teach me the simple things. This is goes to show why Martha Stewart and shows alike are such great success. The only thing I saw setting women back, was a rude and opionated Ms. Hammond distorting the issue and Ann allowing it. I have no problem with men also having the class, but I am personally sick of being forced to allow men in my classes. I can't even go to a womens only gym. Please allow us to have space. We don't have to do every thing together.

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Karen, Independence, MO — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:40:37 GMT

I watched this segment with great interest. I think this course is a great idea. Yes, it does exclude men, but at least someone is doing something to help future generations. Maybe a daddy course is in the works.
I do feel the interview was very slanted. Rachel was allowed to constantly interrupt the gentlemen from Focus on the Family and Ann seemed to continually interrupt his answers with more questions. Let's be fair and allow both side equal time without interruption. I noticed the gentleman from Focus on the Family sat quietly while Rachel continually talked and watched her picture on tv.

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Bobbie; Des Moines, IA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:41:10 GMT

I earned a degree in general Home Economics in the mid '90's and I strongly disagree with Ms. Hamman's statements, especially that taking a course in homemaking does not prepare a woman for that role. There are thousands of women (and yes, men) who have absolutely NO IDEA about how to go about preparing meals, shopping, organizing a home, etc. While they are skills that can be learned "on the job", they are skills that can be taught before throwing a woman into the fire and having her figure them out on her own.

I also strongly disagree with her statement that this type of degree is a waste. My degree allows me to go into numerous viable fields - extension outreach programs, child care and development, research, nutrition education - and many, many more. For five years I chose to use my degree as Junior High and Senior High School Home Economics teacher. I have first hand knowledge and experience that our youth are NOT being taught the necessary skills to provide a solid home for their future families (even if that family is just them with a partner).

We have moved into the 21st Century but the role of homemaker continues to fall more on the shoulders of women than men. Let's prepare our women to develop a home that does make the family stronger and which can then prepare her own children to make such a home for their families.

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Dixie Ryall, Memphis, TN — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:42:05 GMT

I have no problem at all with this kind of program. There are many women who choose a life for themselves to be the best homemaker that they can be. Ms Hamman makes the argument that one can pick up skills better at the source, for example, learn to cook from your mother, learn to sew from another seamstress, etc. This may be true, but then, where is her degree? This way she is getting an education and expanding her mind and experiences, which will only serve her well as she does whatever comes her way in the future.

I know that many women choose to go to this school on their own, but another reason that this program may be in place, and that I have no objection to it is because there are many women accompanying their husbands to seminary. They can take this course of study if they desire (or others) while their husbands are enrolled in seminary.

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Robert Bonvillain, Ragley, LA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:43:04 GMT

Just saw Ann's interview on the new college curriculum homemaking 101. It really surprised me that Ann would be that narrow minded to make sure that the Focus on The Family representative had less than a minute of actual time to speak due to the interruptions not only from Ms Hamman, but Ann herself. Before this interview I used to think that Ann would have made a better replacement for Katie, but now it is clear that she cannot conduct a fair and impartial interview and needs to stick with just the news.
I could really care less if a college wants to offer this type of program, if women like it, it will succeed, if not it will fail and fade away.
It is just so disappointing that Ann is either incapable of conducting a fair interview or that she is more interested in promoting her own views.

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Jennifer Allien Kountze, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:43:48 GMT

First of all, I would like to commend Ann on the way she handled the interview. As a homemaker, I usually feel like the media does not promote homemaking as a valid life choice. My brother actually attends Southwestern and although his wife has also chosen to be a homemaker, does not agree with the "homemaking class". I disagree. The women's movement has widen the field of choices for women in every area EXCEPT those who choose to be homemakers. They have taken that choice away from women by implying that it is a step back into the 1950's. Homemakers today make this choice inspite of everything they hear from our society today. If a class will give women the validation and courage to choose the unpopular and not poitically correct option of homemaking then go for it!

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cyndi grace — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:45:51 GMT

As I watched this, again I was amazed that when Ann asked, "Shouldn't women be given a choice to take this course? There are women who have choosen this course," that your female guest discounted any woman who chooses to take this course. I guess we have choices, but only choices that are mapped out for us by NOW or other feminists groups. When will choice in America really be choice without someone telling me what I must choose? If some women are intimidated by women who choose to become homemakers, they should deal with their lack of understanding that mind-set, don't tell those women they are wrong.

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Blake Honeycutt, Greenville, North Carolina — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:46:20 GMT

In the day of choices for women being such an issue, it is very interesting that Ms. Hamman is so concerned about the offering of this program. If a young woman CHOOSES to take such a curriculum, who am I (or you, or Ms. Hamman) to come against such a decision? It is as if women whose focus is their future family are being discriminated against!

We live in a country in which freedom is still a right. As far as I am concerned, the school has the freedom to create a curriculum, and women have the freedom to say yes or no to it!

As far as the men are concerned, perhaps a like curriculum should be established for them, although I do not object to men taking this course of study.

I feel that with war, poverty, and other huge issues, focusing on this one is a bit absurd.

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Rob Neumann - St. Joseph-Michigan — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:49:29 GMT

I was a bit frustrated listening to the interview, it seemed that A. Curry & Ms. Hamam barely gave Mr. Williams a moment to speak. Whenever he opened his mouth he was over powered by interruptions. Personally, I feel a good interview, especailly one on such a hot topic should involve a fair blend of questions & answers. I really wanted to hear what he had to say as a mom who has worked outside of the home with children & now home as a homemaker, both being tough jobs!!!

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Diane, Wolverton, MN — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:49:43 GMT

Commenting on the program for women on homemaking -- many schools have eliminated the home ec. requirement for students, male and female, in high school and we are seeing more people overweight because no one knows how to cook proper meals, people in debt because they are not taught how to manage their money, a throw away society because no one knows how to sew up a rip in a seam or patch a knee. I realize that there are women who feel that these courses aren't necessary but it is a choice of the women at this university to take the program and we should all be able to make our own choices. I believe that is what women have fought for.

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Jen C., Houston, TX — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:53:23 GMT

I am 31 and the mom of two children (6 yrs and 17 mos).
I was disappointed to see that you did not have on a woman who choose to be a homemaker from the start. I remember in HS talking to my classmates about our future majors and wondering what I was going to do. I never had dreams of being a Dr. or a CEO of a major company or anything like that. For as long as I can remember all I wanted to be was a mom at home with my kids. I did go to colloge for 3 yrs and majored in Early Childhood Education b/c I thougt that would have info that could help me in the future - and it did. (I think that a class in early childhood development should be required of all expecting parents!)

If I had been able to take these courses I would have - b/c as hard as it is for some 21st century women to beleive, there are women who don't want to do anything else except be the the COO of their own household. While there are days when I think it would have been easier to be an astronaut- in the end I wouldn't trade it for anything.

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Alice Robinson — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:59:01 GMT

I was disappointed in the uneven handling of the discussion concerning homemaking classes for women. Mr Williams could barely get a word in to answer the front-loaded questions asked of him by Ann Curry. Ms. Hamman usually cut him off. If women choose to benefit from the information provided in the classes in a women-only environment--that is their choice. It doesn't prevent classes in other subjects to broaden their education. Having classes for women doesn't preclude having parenting/homemaking classes for men as well. Education in one's chosen area is what the women's movement was all about.

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Lani Black, Choctaw, Oklahoma — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:00:40 GMT

In regard to the segment on a degree in homemaking, I think education in homemaking is a great idea. I've met so many families who can't budget, have homes that are a mess and let their children run wild. Some of these are families where the wife chose to stay home and take charge, and others are of working mothers. Some of these women are well educated, yet they struggle daily in managing a home and supporting their family members. In one instance, it reflected poorly on her husband and cost him a promotion and possibly his job. I've never thought lowly of my grandmother or other women who chose to serve in this way. In fact, I looked up to my grandmother with high esteem. Staying home also allowed them to be creative and innovative in other ways. If men want to learn more about homemaking, they certainly can, just not at the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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Norita Drake, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:05:44 GMT

I completely agree wtih Michelle. Isn't it obvious, with so may step parent households, single parents, working parents, daycares, climbing divorce rate, etc. that perhaps we need to help the generation currently raising our next generation? It is incredible to me that the comment was made on the program this morning to the effect that this generation has 'good' role models in the form of mothers, grandmothers, and other family members. How many kids have been taken FROM their families for drug abuse, spouse abuse, child abuse? How many have basically been abandoned? SOMEBODY NEEDS TO WAKE UP! Thank you for shining a light on just ONE of a growing number of such programs that will HELP our future, not tear it down!

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Sandra LaDuke — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:08:08 GMT

I, too, was offended by much of the story on Homemaker 101 this morning. As a professional woman who has a degree in Home Economics, now Family and Consumer Science. I was disappointed when comments were made about women getting what sounded to me like a much more appropriate degree that would, to paraphrase, help a woman support their family IF something happened to their spouse. My career in Family and Consumer Science has included experience in business, as well as in the classroom, and HAS supported my family. I have been supported by my husband and family as well. It is unfortunate that SW Baptist fails to see the importance in home management, child care, time/energy management, etc. for BOTH men and women. Understandably, there should be an issue with no degree encouraged, no men allowed! With more than 30 years experience in the Home Economics/Family and Consumer Science sector, I have found a frightening number of individuals who have no idea about how to maintain a home, raise a child, select nutritious food, to name just a few important issues. Perhaps SW Baptist should stop by FACS classrooms and see that what once female dominated courses are now filled to capacity with an equal number of males and females. In these classes, students learn to value their family and relationships, read a lease, choose blueprints, manage money, raise children, buy a car, select a lending agency, reconcile bankstatements, raise their children, chose daycare, start a business, manage a busy schedule, prepare nutritious meals... and the list continues. Careers that spin off from a background in Family and Consumer Science is unbelievable...for both men and women. SW Baptist needs to look beyond their campus and realize that this information isn't just for women anymore!

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Kristy S., Milwaukee WI — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:09:42 GMT

I was raised with the "feminist" myth that I only needed a good college education, not a 'man,' to succeed in life. I was taught the so-called mundane and degrading, old-fashioned things of life- such as being a content stay at home mom, knowing how to run a house, how to do laundry and how to cook and clean (we all need to know that whether we marry or not!) - were beneath education women and now I find myself highly educated and don't have a lick of sense of how to plan meals for my family or grocery shop with a budget, how to run a household (we are not talking merely dusting here!) or how to teach my 5 girls how to cook! It's embarrassing and apalling that these feminist women think loving and marrying a man and creating a family with him is a setback to women (!!!!) and raising a family is mentally unchallenging. Shame on them! I was originally very interested in watching the Homemaker's segment because home ec was not encouraged when I was in High School- I had to take 'shop' to prove I was just as good as a boy. But today, I found the same feminist myth spewing from Ann Curry's mouth and that of the guest she DID agree with (ie not the fellow who had a different perspective I wanted to hear but never did because of the obvious and continual biased interruptions). I guess it goes to show that if you watch an obviously biased news media, they will only run roughshod over anyone who might be able to shed light on another perspective. God forbid I have the chance to learn how to cook and clean, I might actually be good at it! This show would rather have me in fear that I had better learn a 'real' education because obviously my wonderful husband is going to turn into a jerk like all men of the world and divorce me and leave me to rely on myself. PLEASE! If you call this honest journalism, then I guess I had just better pack it all up and let a daycare worker raise my children, go back to work and hire a housekeeper who was smart enough to learn these things before they became detrimental to women!

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Mary, Dallas, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:12:18 GMT

The biggest misnomer when it comes to stay-at-home education is that because a person is studying how to raise a family, they are not intelligent.

We should embrace the fact that a homemaking student does have a skill set, and that we need to expand the curriculum. This could a minor of studies to supplement the student's major.

A Homemaker could also study nutrition, psychology child development, education courses, art courses, business entrepreneurial courses, literature courses - maybe something in even existentialism or similar - because how many kids ask the big questions, mathematics courses for at least when the children need help with school, social / political courses discussing gender roles in society, and be required to mentor children for the experience. If there were courses for after the children are grown, I would suggest those too. There should also be seminar courses with personal homemaking experiences - why and why not they were chosen.
The more information you can give a person, the better, because let's face it: no one chooses to be a homemaker and thinks divorce and having to start over are a possibility for him or her. If it does happen, the person should know what to do. While we are at it, let's also require self defense and battered spouse education.

People are going to choose to stay at home. To some degree, it is considered a luxury. We, as a society, have to offer this person the best education possible.

With dysfunctional families out numbering functional families (note, the word happy is not being used), maybe we all need some homemaking courses.

We create a problem for ourselves when we judge what a person should or should not learn. It is the role of the educator to lay out all the facts. My concern with the speakers this morning is if they think darning socks is the only skill you need to be a homemaker, then they are limiting the education.

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Amy, Quad Cities, Iowa — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:15:42 GMT

I was frustrated with the interview about the 'Homemaker' degree. I am bombarded with women's advocacy groups claiming women should have a 'right to choose', but apparently that only means if that choice is to get a degree they approve of just in case. Ms. Hamman actually compared staying home with children to putting money in a garbage disposal. The poor guy from Focus on the Family wasn't able to get in a comment. It amazes me how little we value our children in this country. The talk is big, but in reality if people can pawn them off on someone else at the cheapest price in the name of a paycheck and the earlier the better!!! I wonder if society actually thinks it was an easy process to choose to give up a hard earned career with a pretty good paycheck to take a job I had no training for, with no respect where I lost every friend I had, cutting our income by 40%. It wasn't a question when that baby was put in my arms because I knew I loved him more than myself. Maybe we need a little less self love and to remember it is ok to put others before ourselves. It is very pc to always watch out for yourself. I am tired of hearing people tell me how they had to socialize their child in daycare - really??? I am not buying it, but I do buy that our society has gotten really used to instant gratification and buying what we want when we want it. I am guilty of it, I think most people are. The question is are we doing this at the expense of our kids??? Really, who comes first?

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Monica Kessel — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:15:55 GMT

I was also offended when I watched this. In part because this man (not from the college) has to defend this course rather then tell people what it can offer them. First of all if there is going to be debate, then a more appropriate choice should have been made on the side of the college. Perhaps an actual educator from the college that knew the questions being “thrown” at the man from Focus on the Family. And second, shouldn't a debate have opinions from both sides? All I heard was having to defend this course and not being able (having time) to discuss any of the possible positives that this could have for young woman. He appeared to be getting beating up by both the other person and Ann Curry. Isn’t the new caster supposed to be neutral?

I am a stay at home mom of four now and in the beginning it was tough and continues still to be a challenge. I wish I had a chance to learn from a source like that and be even a bit more prepared for the path in life I happened on. I would say that was my "if". If I decide to get married, quite my job and raise four girls! Yea, I could have uses several of those courses.

Speaking of the "if factor", in the world today if you have a degree in theater you can get a job in accounting. The person with the degree gets the job over someone without it even though that's sometimes not fair. If a woman winds up needing or wanting to provide financially for her family, she will be prepared there as well.

I just wish the Today show would allow the other person a chance to debate the pros of a program like this.

I also noticed the same thing happened with the interview with the congressman who was trying to keep the boys pants up. He was forced to spend all his airtime defending/explaining himself and had no time given to him to share any of the pros of a move like this.

Lets be fair to both sides when “starting the debate” as Ann puts it.

Monica
Richmond, IL

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Jimmie, Cleburne, TX — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:16:40 GMT

Couple points:

#1) No time given to the Focus on the Family representative.
#2) Southwestern Seminary is a school that prepares ministers, and their families, for the role of ministry to their local churches and/or communities. Not sure the N.O.W. representative can speak on that with any certainty.
#3) This is a course, not a major, or even a concentration. I'm sure it's not intended to turn every woman into Martha Stewart or Rachel Ray, instead to discuss these homemaking issues as relevant to ministry. Pastor's, in various roles, and their families live in "glass houses" to the people in their ministry. A careful family in ministry tries to represent Christ in the pulpit, in the grocery store, everywhere they go and including the home. I'd like to explain this more, but it certainly isn't the forum.
#4) Below is the link so you can see what this course covers:

http://www.swbts.edu/catalog/page.cfm?id=97&open=9_area

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Cherie, Sugar Grove, IL — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:19:34 GMT

Housewives 101 is a welcome change for young women. Today young women are introduced to so called "new ideas" and don't have the option of learning some solid everyday life skills. There are many young people who don't have parents, family, friends, (myself included) that have the ability to teach these skills as was suggested by Ms. Hamman. I am not surprised that Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary was brave enough to take a step forward in this forgotten concept. I am not a Baptist but they are to be applauded and other secular schools should take note. As for men learning these life skills? Absolutely! To be honest, I feel in some cases, men need it more than women! Also, I felt Mr. Williams was probably not the best candidate for your discussion - even though his credentials may reflect it. Because someone is a VP doesn't make him qualified to debate with 2 women who obviously didn't agree with the Housewives 101 program. I love you, Ann but there was a little bit of verbal bulldozing with your male guest. He had very little time to say anything at all!

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Bryan Meahl Appleton, New York — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:20:37 GMT

I was annoyed with the sexist bias that was exhibited by Ann with this interveiw. I had believed her to be more balanced than that. But the two women showed that they could run over a gentleman who was deprived of ever having a moment to speak. They could not have been more arrogant nor ignorant of in their rude display.

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Steve, NJ — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:25:28 GMT

I agree that Ms. Curry and Mrs. Hamam ganged up on Mr. Williams and barely let him get a word in. I came from a home in which both my parents and grandparents worked, but my wife is a full-time homemaker, and I wouldn't want to trade places with her for one moment. That being said, the one thing we're overlooking here is this course is being taught at a Seminary, whose students possess traditional values and gender roles that many modern Americans dismiss as archaic. It's funny how everyone preaches tolerance these days, and yet it is the same exact people who are the most intolerant of those who choose to follow a traditional lifestyle. The image of the American housewife is one of a strong, organized and resourceful individual. I fail to find how that is sexist.

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Amy Hockett Smith — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:28:08 GMT

I would like to comment on the issue and not the way the interview was handled. As a mother of two, part-time Baptist minister and a former student of Southwestern Seminary (1985-87), my opinion is that the "Homemaking class" is less about learning how to run your home, and more a reflection on the gender-biased state of Southern Baptists today. The development of this course came too close to the addition in the "Baptist Faith and Message" of the line stating that wives were to "joyfully submit" to their husbands. Many Texas Baptists still stand for freedom of belief and not fundamentalist specifics about defining male/female roles. Unfortunately, the fact that SWBTS will not allow men in the course confirms the seminary's trend towards gender pidgeon-holing.

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Donna,Richmond Virginia — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:28:30 GMT

This story, or more appropriately, the handling of this story is yet another example of how entitled we all feel to weigh in on what is right and wrong with this world as if any of us has all the answers. I'm really surprised at Ann for her obvious bias on this. Here's the point...it's OK to have only boys in the Boy Scouts, it's OK to for little girls to have princess parties and not invite the boy next door, and it's really OK for there to be available education to women who choose to want to study this. Why in the world is this an issue? Slow news day? For the record, I work full time, own my business and raised two children while I worked so I'm not biased to stay home moms. This is just a matter of "it's not really any of our business if this is important to someone"!!!

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Peggy Lester, Strasburg, Colorado — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:32:23 GMT

I am more than a little disappointed (but not surprised) in the way Ann Curry handled the segment on Homemaking 101. Ann and Rachel both made sure that Glenn Williams wasn't even able to answer one question without being interrupted. Frankly, I was offended that Rachel couldn't keep her hand off Mr. William's knee. Her attitude was both dehumanizing and patronizing. Had Mr. Williams touched her knee and used the tone she used with him, she would be screaming he was harassing her sexually. This is a new century and freedom of choice goes both ways. No one is holding a gun to anyone else's head forcing them to take this course.

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Laurel Simonsen, Salt Lake City, Utah — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:32:50 GMT

It is my opinion that homemaking encompasses all aspects of living a great life. Learning and becoming efficient with finances, good nutrition, child rearing, human relations, time management, community involvement are a few of the basics homemakers deal with on a daily basis. Many women lack the skills necessary and would find the coursework at this university to be a great help. I am sorry it is looked at as such a unnecessary course of study.
Our society is suffering! Women such as Ms. Hamman must live in a bubble of high society money where the effects of the neglected families are not as readily seen. Money can buy nanny's etc,. The majority of the nation needs to do all these things on their own and are lacking in knowledge and skills.
Why wasn't the actual cirriculum presented? I am sure it was more than cooking and cleaning.

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Erin, Springfield, Tennessee — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:41:04 GMT

As a 27 yr. old southern baptist, I am supportive of such a major. Although this is not a major in high school, they teach us these fundamentals in home economics at high school. Why not offer this options to adults? I think it can be a different point of view to women, even from the ones who can learn from their family members. I am even sure this would be useful for women that have a job outside the home. How wonderful this would be for daycare workers.
Nonetheless, I think this would be useful for men, too. Everyone needs to learn such things.

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Mary Currin Nashville TN. — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:42:23 GMT

What is wrong with offering a course that women have asked for? The comment of "throw back to the 50's" does not reflect the progress women have had in the last 50 years. {Maybe not as far and as fast as some women would like.}If women want to be better mother's and learn how to better juggle their lives, there is nothing wrong with that.
Men approach parenting in a different way, sometimes, so focusing on women narrows the study.
Today we pay health care people to teach "at risk" mothers. Maybe we could reduce some of this problems ahead of time with the courses.

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Anon Amiss, Fort Worth, TX — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:45:52 GMT

I am a woman & attend Southwestern's seminary, but I am not the college or majoring in homemaking. As I look at the program it is just as academically challenging as the other undergraduate degrees. If secular colleges offer homemaking degrees, then why can't southern baptist colleges offer it? Give people a choice that is all I am saying!

I also don't think of myself as "uber-conservative" at all, in fact I am quite liberal! I have found there is still room for me in a southern baptist instituation, and no one ousts me for my views. I don't think this program has political affiliations, nor does it teach women to be "barefoot and pregnant", instead it teaches women what to after that stage & any program that encourages reading about child development and philosophy is a great asset to our global community! I'm sure we all wish that our children (the future generation) could be nurtured by men and women who are educated in these fields! This kind of interaction is surely more useful than others! Maybe I wouldn't be in therapy if I had such ideally trained parents!

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Bill Patterson Charlotte, NC — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:48:10 GMT

As an employer, a four year degree in "Homemaking" on a resume would immediately make me pass on hiring them.

Offering electives is fine, but your Major defines your degree. As for cutting off the Focus on the Family guy, he really was not saying anything relavent to the topic. I wanted to hear an opinion not his resume.

I thought they made a very good point in that this course is not offered to men. How can it not be sexist then?

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Liz, Chicago IL — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:49:50 GMT

I'm surprised that no one seems as infuriated as I am that women are expected to have homemaking skills in our society. The woman who wrote "the role of homemaker continues to fall more on the shoulders of women than men" seems to think we should accept this "responsibility" rather than rallying against it. I have always been messy and don't know how to cook, and I will stay this way to help dispel these stereotypes. Yes, I am intolerant of traditional lifestyles, because it casts women as second class citizens. Let's turn things around and require men to take these courses. If only one parent is needed to run a household, why can't it be the father?

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Daryl Dalling — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:50:37 GMT

Who is the most influential person in your life? Probably your mother. It seems appropriate to train women who choose to stay home to be better homemakers. I learned many life skills from my mother,cooking, ironing shirts, child care, etc. This has been a great help in my life. By the way my wife appreciates it also.

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Patricia M Hohertz Austin Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:57:30 GMT

As a person who majored in Home Economics when it was part of an important career, I feel they are missing the boat by not inviting men to take this class also.
We are all a product of Homemaking!
I feel that some of the important aspects of these classes are sometimes missed in todays society. How many young people know how to cook or know the basics of nutrition? How many of us and them make budget decisions that are unwise? (over spending) All of us have to purchase and wear clothing - Sometimes this clothing is discarded becausing of a simple alteration or simple sewing techniques that could be used to make this garment last longer thus saving money to invest. All of the aspects of Homemaking will be used if we are mothers, fathers or choose to live alone. This is an important learning experience in our society today and always.

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Colleen Tauke, DeSoto Iowa — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:10:45 GMT

You owe professional homemakers and Home Economists across the country an apology. As a Iowa State graduate in Home Economics Education it's degrading to turn on the television and see a woman put down my choice in careers. Our society needs the skills offered in a degree in home economics course work. Nutrition, child development, home management, finances, textiles....Which of us would not benefit from learning more about these topics. We don't aspire to be Martha Stewart, just good at what we do each and every day You acted as though a degree in Home Economics was something new. ISU has offered this a degree for over 125 years!!!! Ann needs to do her homework. If we cared more about life skills and worried less about how much money we can earn, we could would create a brighter future and healthier families. Maybe we have learned something from the homemakers of the 1950s!!!!!!!!!!! What's really important at the end of the day - our career or our FAMILY.

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George Davis, Wisconsin — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:11:43 GMT

I agree with Mary from Texas. A Homemaking 101 class should be a critical examination of what it means to be a homemaker and not just a class teaching a basic skill set.

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J Neil, Gila, NM — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:12:05 GMT

I think the homemaking program is a great idea. Women need to know that staying home to take care of home and family is a good option, and not be mocked for it. This world does not easily allow women to make that choice - my husband has been mocked at work for "making his wife stay at home," and asked, "Why don't you allow your wife to get a job?"

I am a homemaker, as are my mother, my four sisters, most of my aunts, and all of my grandmothers before me. Luckily, I had lots of homemaking education in my home, but many girls don't have that opportunity these days. I worry that my 5 sons will not be able to find a wife who wants to raise a family, and has the beginnings of knowing how to do so properly. I want my grandchildren to have mothers who know how and want to stay home and take care of them, not turning their raising over to strangers. We are doing our best to raise our daughter to be a strong woman, who is able to do anything she wants to do, and who knows how to do all the important things required in running a household, no matter how rich or how poor her family ultimately is.

My biggest complaint about the interview is Ann's question, asking if the course teaches women to be submissive. Submissive is not a bad word, except as the world sees it now. A good homemaker does not necessarily submit to her husband's will at all times. A good homemaker is an equal partner with her good husband, who should also be submissive to her. A family needs to be willing to compromise, work together, and occasionally give in to each other's ideas and inspirations. The way I see it, we should all be submissive in one way or another.

Oh, and our two older sons have been taking home ec in junior high, and it is so fun to see them learning how to cook, clean, sew, etc!!! I hope all my boys learn these skills, through me and possibly home ec classes, so that they can grow up to be good, helpful, understanding husbands and fathers.

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Tricia, New Mexico — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:13:12 GMT

I am an everyday avid watcher of the show and love Ann, but today I was so dissapppointed that she did not give a good interview with of the Focus on the Family rep. She was very interputive of everyone of his comments. We need to remember that these are voluntery classes and the degree, just as any other. I do feel that if men really feel that it is unfair and want to take this sort of classes, then take it up with the school and ask for it.... we need good daddys that can cook and help with the household chores too. And as for Ann, well she should take a lesson from this interview and be more neutral on future similar interviews, or not do them, if she can't give both sides equal time without interruptions.

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Colleen, Desoto Iowa — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:18:23 GMT

To Bill in NC -
If you pass on the resume of a person with a home economics degree you are missing out on a potential employee that knows what's important in life. Grounded in management skills, communication skills and an understanding of how to deal with adversity. Oh well, your loss!!!

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Jamie, Kansas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:19:56 GMT

The world is so full of hypocrisy, we are all so silly. Why do we(in this case, women), bother picking on women who take classes to become better at what they choose to do with their life, when all the activists say women need to have a say in their choices? Why do women preachers complain about what a seminary teaches its students about the different roles God created men and women to do? And clearly their is hypocrisy in the fact that a woman claims to know and believe the bible but yet will discount the fact that she is not allowed to teach or have authority over a man(1Timothy 2:12), not because she isn't as intellegent because the Bible clearly states women are equal to men in this area, and she rebells and teaches men anyway?? It was clear that the 2 ladies on the Today Show today completely disregarded the male guest and what he had to say, yet he graciously sat and listened. It's just all interesting to watch and hear what we all have to say about such things.

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Mandy Smith, Beaverton, Oregon — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:22:03 GMT

As a stay at home Mom, raised by a single Mom, I would love to have a degree in homemaking!

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AU — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:25:50 GMT

I am a new female OB/GYN, just finishing residency. As you can imagine, finding a balance between work and home life will be a challenge. I feel it is important to be doing something that makes you happy thereby making those around you (family) happy as well. There are unhappy stay at home moms and children are very good ay sensing discontent.

On another note, I was very disappointed with Ann and her female guest. They practically attacked the male guest's point of view. Part of being a good reporter (and interviewer) is to hear both sides of the story, and not let your emotions and opinions overshadow its purpose.

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Kim, Colorado Springs CO — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:26:07 GMT

I was fired up with many emotions while watching the interview; disbelief and frustration almost brought me to tears.
I am a new stay at home mom of 4 boys for 3 months now and am overwhelmed by doubt and fear that I am not giving my family everything they need. I wish I had the opportunity to take some classes on the topic.
I feel disbelief that STILL there are women who look down upon those who choose to stay at home. I thought that those who were against the 'domesticated woman' were a thing of the past. We are in a time where it should be okay for any woman or man to live a life that they choose, without scrutiny.
I feel frustration over those women who do not support their fellow woman. We are supposed to be our greatest supporters girls, but end up being our own worst enemy. It's frustrating to know that I will only get the support of some women if I'm choosing a career outside of my home. I did it for 14 years and this new life of mine is 10X harder emotionally and mentally.
I love Ann and still do. I felt the FOF gentlemen made his point, but that Ms. Hamman needed all the time in the world to drive hers home.
Based on the comments above, Ms. Hamman, you are a dying breed... good riddance to your way of thought!

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Robin Morehouse, Lowell Michigan — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:30:46 GMT

To Ann Curry and the Today show producers,

First of all I have to tell how I love waking up every morning and having you guys there. And don’t tell any one, but Ann has always been my favorite because she comes across as so caring and delivers a story or interview very well. With this said, I have to tell you that I was quite upset this morning (August 24, 2007) when I watched a slaughter to a Focus on the Family representative and a program that wasn’t even given a chance to be defended.
It’s a sad day when we can defend teaching sexual education to our fifth grade children, but not defend a program that will encourage a parent to be there to do it themselves when his or her child is an appropriate age. Why is so much negative emphasis focused on things that are good for our families and, in turn, our future? It’s a sad day when we can have children and not know how to fix their ripped clothing or cook them something other than mac and cheese. It’s also sad that we’re going on four generations that don’t know the art of knitting and sewing, how to make a house a home all by ourselves and without the help of Martha Stewart. We don’t know proper etiquette, the very thing that made us civilized in the first place. I know that that may sound like an extreme pull to get a point across, but it’s true because it’s what I see and hear all around me. Homemakers aren’t what they used to be because there has not been a true homemaker to teach them. My next question is why is it “1950’s” to want to have a nice place for our spouse to come home to? My husband, Dave, works really hard everyday to take care of us and, as a woman I find joy in my career choice. I love being home and being the one to mold my children to be good, loving, and fair people. And because I love it so much, I want to show appreciation to Dave for working hard so I can do that. That, I’m sure is the basis for girls taking this course.
Can you imagine having so many skills that not only will make your job easier, but because you’ll know and understand more, you wouldn’t be so frazzled at the end of the day? Of course I’m not an idiot and I do know how to do the dishes, but I haven’t been able to figure it out how to do them quickly and efficiently with a 1 year old attached to my leg and a three year old running around destroying the room I just work so hard cleaning. Moments like that happen more than once during the day and they mostly include a lot of noise from my two ADORABLE kids. Like as I write this, my cat has knocked over my coffee making a mess on the floor I just cleaned, my three year old has informed me that his one year old sister has taken off her diaper in the living room where I had put a movie in for them, and now she’s tapping my leg because she wants to eat again. I love my kids dearly, and I love my husband, and I think many women that stay at home feel that way, but how are they supposed to find time for themselves or feel good that they were able to take care of something themselves like fixing the leaky faucet or hooking up the dryer vent when a big load shakes it off? That’s the empowerment that should have been fed to us after the “1950’s.” What should have been shoved down America’s throat is not “we can be just like men,” but that men and women were created differently and that’s a very cool thing! I get to unveil beauty and have a nurturing spirit. I wouldn’t want to put up with emotions like a man but I’m glad Dave is there to help me with mine. Now don’t get me wrong, I think there’s a big balance, and I totally respect woman CEO’s for their accomplishments, and dads that take care of the home front in their respective situations.
I also would like to hit on a point that the other lady said about learning skills from grandmothers and mothers. When do I have time? Those things should have been taught to us before we endeavored on this journey. And more importantly, what generation after my great-grandmother (who was raised before the feminist movement) truly understands these skills? I know my mother doesn’t know as much in that department, or she just didn’t teach me. I sadly think it’s because we, as girls, were taught that it was a great offense to other women to not attend college and to learn how to sew and knit, or “darn socks.” It’s at least true for me. I want to continue my education, but I’m breaking right now for my kids. How cool would it be though to have a degree that could get you the best of both worlds? If something awful happened, those girls would have a degree and a wide variety of skills, thus many job choices and even perhaps a stay at home business. The whole “darn socks” comment was the one that pissed me off the most. That is not what this program is about and it was completely unfair. It was also an opportunity to ruin the reputation of homemakers, this program, and Focus on the Family. I respect and appreciate FOF more than you’ll ever know. They help more families than you’ll ever know. They ARE experts on families and do you know where they become experts? They learned it in their college educations, the lives/experiences of others, and most importantly, in their own families. Next time, could you at least let their representative answer one question? Even if you don’t completely agree? Please?
Now one last thought, and please let me say that I appreciate you taking time to read this. My thought has to do with the thought that this program will help lower divorce rates. Yeah, it does sound bold, but it makes sense to me. I’ve been there. If a woman isn’t stressed out, if there’s balance in the home, then there will be a better relationship between a man and a wife. If a man feels appreciated, loved, and has a place to relax with his wife and children, there’s balance in his heart and he can fulfill the needs his wife has. That all sounds very general and trust me, we’ve had little tweaks into that system, but the funny thing is that it’s proven itself effective in our marriage and our family. We went from the verge of divorce (looking back it was because I was living out the feminist bull hookey and Dave wasn’t fighting me on it) to the best part of our marriage yet! Guess what else we did…we listened to focus on the family, I quit my job, put school on hold, and I devoted every part of myself to my family and the home we live in and Dave committed to providing everything financial, supporting me in my endeavors at home, and my ideas to make money from here when I’m ready (and can do it without a one year old attached to my leg…she likes me  ). He also has been great at getting home, chilling out for a few minutes and then taking the kids for me so I can have a break. That’s not “1950’s” that’s a family. And yes, I’m very happy and content.
I hope my point was made clearly, and I, again, appreciate you taking time to read this. I’m not anyone famous, but I do have a voice and I feel that you could have done a better job allowing this voice to be heard (I’m very positive that this is the thought behind the program). I appreciate journalism as long as its fair and this definitely wasn’t. In fact it was damaging, I’m sure, so if you can do something to fix it, then it would be appreciated as well. And Ann, I have to say that “you’re so pretty.” That’s what my three year old wanted to tell you  Thanks again.

Respectively yours,
Robin Morehouse

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Mary E. Pearson, San Diego, CA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:30:59 GMT

I applaud the school for offering classes that value caring for a family. The only flaw in their offering is that men are not encouraged to particpate. Why on earth wouldn't a man be interested in child care and nutrition for his family? Open it up for everyone!

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Mary J., Fruitland, ID — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:33:41 GMT

As a homemaker of 31 years, I am tired of being told that my choice of occupation is a default occupation. I trained to be what I am because I wanted to be successful at it. I graduated with a degree in Family Life, 30 years ago and I have been gaining practical experience ever since. I did not learn how to parent toddlers and teenagers just by being one once, nor did I learn how to run a home by growing up in one. On the job education for one of the most important, long-lasting, far-reaching, difficult occupations is a sad commentary on where our nation places its priorities. Is it possible that with more focus on the home and family, we might need less mental-health care professionals and institutions, and less prisons. I am the mother of 6 children and grandmother to 4, and I feel that my job is the most important job in the world. You don't often hear someone on their deathbed say, "I wish I had spent more time/money/resources in the boardroom." I do not demean other's choices in occupation and I wish they would extend me the same courtesy.
I enjoy 'The Today Show' and I realize controversy is a big part of it. Please hear my voice for anything that helps us be better spouses and parents, that strengthens families. Good job, Southern Baptist, and maybe they will add mens classes when they hear of so much interest.

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Suzan Baroni, Gilbert, AZ — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:34:26 GMT

I agree with most of the posts here. Ann and Ms Hamman were disrespectful to Mr. Williams (honestly, the way they interrupted you'd think Matt was the interviewer.)But what appalls me the most is how feminist women are constantly touting a woman's right to choices but are the first to take away a woman's right to choose a tradfitional path. If this college sees a need for a class like this and women want to take it, more power to them.

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Philadelphia, Pa. — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:38:03 GMT

Ms. Haman's position revealed a huge problem....that homemaking and motherhood have come to be seen as activities that require no skill. It's why women who choose to be at home with their children are afforded little respect.

According to Ms. Haman, a woman must venture into the corporate world in order to be valued and feel fulfilled. She made it clear that she doesn't value what it takes to organize a well run home with well cared for children.

One has to wonder if Ms. Haman is fully cognizant of all of the problems stemming from homes that lack the skills of a homemaker. If she were, she'd be elevating the role of homemaker rather than relegating it to something that can be picked up through osmosis.

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Kris H., Portland, OR — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:39:39 GMT

I think it's obvious from all the comments that have been posted so far that this interview was poorly done. I, too, was disappointed by the way Ms. Hamman and Ann Curry treated the Focus on the Family gentleman (and I say gentleman because he surely was a gentleman during the interview). For goodness' sake, LET HIM TALK! Obviously the women were biased, but they didn't have to be so pushy about their points of view. I also was amused by Ms. Hamman's comment about not learning a homemaker's job in a book or in a class - only on-the-job training was necessary. Would she advise that we take budding psychologists, teachers, CEOs, accountants, etc. and give them only "on-the-job" training? Of course not, but that's exactly what a mom is, and why not give her some useful training? Give me a break! I, too, have no problem with men taking this or a similar course, but I really don't think that's the issue. Honestly, I don't see any issue here.

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R. Vargas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:40:19 GMT

If I had only paid attention! I went to a private college where i took the first class in "Domestic Engineering". I was in the class because the one I really wanted wasnot available. I wish I had paid attention. The course, had I continued in it, taught time management, budget skills, child development, housekeeping skills, cooking, nutrition. I am now a parent who does not know many of these things. I just hide in the fact that I have a career and do not have the "time" to shop wisely or clean my house. My husband passed away and all the responsability now falls on my shoulders. I wish that I had continued taking the course and maybe I would be able to better manage my home. This does not mean that I would not also work outside the home. It sad that some women feel threatened by those women who excell at "domestic Engineering".

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Adrienne W. Bakersfield, CA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:42:14 GMT

Ms. Hamman is out in left field! If you think about it, the point she made is true with ANY job or career. The things you learn in the classroom are nearly always different than day-to-day life when you are actually working in that field. That doesn't mean the information you learned in the classroom isn't valuable!!

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Ginny Modica, Diamond Springs, CA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:53:20 GMT

I agree with so many of the other comments, Ann did not moderate this segment well at all.

Get a grip, if this is just one class/semester that only allows women, so what.

Also in the classes of "cooking" and "sewing" so many of the skills you learn translate into other jobs. For instance, there is a lot of math in sewing, especially quilting, I know because I quilt and guess what, I do contruction tiling which is a lot like quilting only with a different media and tiling happens to be a field dominate by men.

Request, next time Ann do a better job moderating on this kind of "controversial" segment.

Women know what they want, if this class exists, it is because there was a demand for it. If men want this kind of class there will be a demand and money for it and they will have it too. I thought the real controversy was that it was women only class, not the content of the class. This insulted my and it appears a lot of other people's intelligence.

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Liz, Chicago IL — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 15:59:52 GMT

Staying at home is not a career choice. If you don't receive monetary compensation for what you do, it's not a job, just as volunteer positions are not considered "careers." Women and men should both share equal responsibility working around the house while earning money to support their families. The outside world is a wonderful place. Both genders have much to gain by working outside the home and exposing themselves to new experiences and people. Staying within four walls and teaching girls how to be domesticated just perpetuates an endless cycle of subservient, uninteresting women.

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Susie Mulvany, Leesburg, Florida — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:02:15 GMT

I was very disappointed in Rachel and Ann for the way they constantly interrupted the man from Focus on the Family, Ann mostly since as a reporter she should report the news or interview from a neutral perspective as well as maintain control of the interview, I don’t think he was able to complete more than a sentence or two without being interrupted.

I see nothing wrong with having a degree in homemaking for young women who "CHOOSE" to take it. How many young women today have a mom that stayed at home to teach them about meal planning and preparation? Or how to design and make designer original clothing? Or how to shop sensibly?

I do not know what the entire curriculum teaches but if it has something on conflict resolution that has to be a help with the husband and wife relationship not to mention helping the children resolve their disagreements.

Rachel may be a homemaker but she seems to have the attitude of so many others of today that it takes very little intelligence or expertise to be a successful wife and mother in the home. Anyone can hand their children over to others to raise and buy their clothes and food pre-made, and bring home a paycheck but not many can inspire their husbands and children to great things.

It would be nice to offer a separate class for men and if the demand is great enough maybe there will be one in the future.

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Paul A. Aitken, DMA; Boise, ID — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:06:31 GMT

With the help of TIVO, I have had the opportunity to rewatch the video from this morning's interview regarding a homemaker degree for women. My initial reactions have held true and I have several layers of concern.
As a thirty-something male, it concerns me that there are still those who believe that homemaking is a women's-only position, and thus would provide a degree in homemaking only to women. Now inasmuch as I believe that the degree at SBTS is a great idea (because it affords the opportunity to truly study family economics, child psycology, etc.), I do believe that men should have equal status in the program. Outwardly, the only aspect of this program that I believe is inherently flawed is that it caters solely to women, as though men do not have a nurturing soul in their body. Inasmuch as my wife and I both work outside of the home, several of our friends are stay-at-home parents (both moms and a dad). Their position is that they want to truly focus on their children by choice, not because of any submissive or even religious concern.
A second layer of concern that I have with this morning's interview is Kim Grady's statement that this degree is being put forth into the curriculum because this idea is some type of conspiracy to get women out of the workplace. Holy cow! This was perhaps a contemporary issue in the 60's and 70's, but in today's parenting circles, is just not an issue. I work each and every day with both men and women, and I cannot begin to imagine the workplace as a fraternal organization void of women. Now that would be a foray back to the 1950's! (By the way, I have heard the statistic that the unemployment rate is driven ever-higher by the number of women in the workforce. 25 years ago, the unemployment rate was 9.7%, and today it is 4.8%. Women obviously have not had a derrogatory impact upon employment).
My final concern with this interview has to do with the interview itself. Neither interviewee seemed to be in touch with contemporary society. If one wants to have a truly good discussion about reconstructing the family, we need to start by not involving someone from focus on the family -- their views are so old and backward that their views were likely never relevent to real life. Second, we need to not involve someone who never left the feminist movement for their value systems, although relevent at one time, no longer apply to the way things really are today.
The twenty and thirty-somethings of today have been raised predominently by the feminists of yesterday and are sadly lacking the skills necessary to raise a family and run a household simply because our models were often outside of the home trying to prove the previous generation wrong. Consequently, a degree in homemaking has to be a good thing (provided that men have equal status and equal opportunity for involvement) because it would help individuals to acquire a deeper, and more contemporaneus knowledge that would undoubtly strengthen families at their very core.

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Kimberly Rodriguez, Edroy, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:17:22 GMT

As a new stay-at-home mom, I am suprised by the reation to this course. If a woman can get collage credit for learning something that she my actually use in the future, thats great. When I think back to my high school Home Ec. class the only thing we(girls and boys) learned was how to make pudding and sew a pillow. Not a useful skill now. I think a real homemaking course should be offerd in high school to girls and boys. If kids knew what running a house and raising children was really like, there might less teen pregnancy and more appreciation for their parents.
As for the interview, I think it was very one sided and they always seem to run out of time and cut people off.

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Jeff — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:19:35 GMT

After watching the segment this morning, I have to agree with Ms. Hamman. Having educational curriculum pertaining to a formal Degree in Homemaking, I believe, does nothing but suppresses the role of women, and places a socioeconomic label on an individual, thus defining their being. Growing up in the 70’s and 80’s, educational curriculum in the high school setting allowed individuals to take Home Economics, or Shop Class as an elective. This is the millennium, and as the baby boomers phase out and the Gen X phase into society, this conservative mindset will succumb to the liberalism of Gen X ideologies. Additionally, I believe that individuals are a product of their environment. With the economics of the world today, single parents and dual-income families both have shared responsibilities in maintaining the family dynamic, to include their homestead. The social, political, and cultural landscapes of our country and the world have changed. It’s time to adapt.

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John Duke, Birmingham, Alabama — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:24:24 GMT

The interview didn't deal with one aspect of this degree. Southwestern Seminary, a Southen Baptist school, was taken over by fundamentalists some years back. They officially are against women having any "authority" over men, whether preaching or teaching or whatever. The president of Southwestern Seminary fired one woman professor last year because he didn't think a women should teach men theology or Scripture. Is there anything wrong with women working in the home or learning to do certain things in the home? Absolutely not. In theory, for a school to offer a degree in home economics (or whatever else it might be called) is not wrong. But when you understand this particular school, that it is officially against women being equal to men in all ways, that it has in fact fired a woman for being in too much of an "authoritative" position with men, and that this degree is not open to men, that changes things. At this particular school, this particular degree is sexist and is a reflection of a view that women should be subordinate to men and SHOULD be homemakers. At any other school that is otherwise not exclusive in its approach to women or men, this kind of degree would be fine, but at this school, because of where they are coming from, this is in fact a sexist degree. If women want to take it, fine, but at this school, it is a sexist degree.

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Jacqulyn Owens , Memphis, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:46:30 GMT

OH MY! I have a degree in Home Economics Education, I have taught in high school both boys and girls. When we think about homemaking everyone thinks cooking, cleaning, sewing, what about running a household with a budget of $45,000.00 or $150.000.00 or more:this is part of teaching. Child development should be mandetory for all high school students as many will become parents, this week alone major stories in the news about a child placed in the dryer because of the stress a young man could not handle and the rest of his life is in jeopardy. Please do not make light of Homemaking, it should be a skill that all people have. Will our homes look exactly alike? NO! We need skills and support in our lives for every area. I have run several businesses since I was a Home Economics teacher, what I learned to receive my degree helped me to be successful.

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Mark, Houston, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:49:11 GMT

This course offering by Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary may be a bit out of the ordinary for a seminary, but it is certainly one that could benefit those who complete the course. Homemaking must be taught just like any other skill and often, using our contemporary society as evidence, mothers may not be equipped to teach their daughters this useful skill. I applaud SWBTS for stepping out and offering this course to interested women. I would venture to say that SWBTS will "see the light" and open it up to male students in the future.

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Carole Perry Arlington,TX — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:54:50 GMT

I would like to thank Jimmie,from Cleburne for providing the link to the school. I learned that the woman who teaches at least one of the courses does not believe in birth control.
I thought that the man should have been given a chance to voice his side of the question,even though it is something with which I do not agree. I also think that men should be permitted to take the courses. Not allowing men tells us that this is "women's work" and not important enough for the man to be bothered with. On the other hand, I think it is a good idea to at least offer the courses. Skills that were once learned in the home are often not taught there anymore as homelife is changing.
Ann, please let the people you are interviewing have more of the time and you take less. I noticed that even "Harry Potter" did not get to talk as much as you did. I am still one of your fans anyway.

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Nancy Wiker, Lancaster PA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:56:44 GMT

As an Family and Consumer Sciences Extension Educator employed by Penn State Univeristy, I have a career in "Homemaking". Much of my day is spent answering questions about home related skills such as nutrition and food preparation, safe handling of food, clothing care, cleaning and health. Our organization also employs para professionals who teach food shopping, selection and preparation to low income families through the EFNEP and FSNEP programs. We also provide informaiton about family strengths, child care and family finance.

Managing a home requires many skills. Today's families may not have these needed skills because their parents may not have passed them along to their children. Many schools are dropping FCS (Home Economics) programs (which do include both male and female students), adding to the problem. It is interesting that schools are dropping the subject while the number of television segments and magazines are featuring these topics is increasing.

Even if they do a good job with these features, it does not provide the consistant basic education a course of study would offer. Both men and women contribute to home life and need skills to successfully manage a family.

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Amber Irlbeck, Lubbock, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:22:04 GMT

Perhaps being a “great” parent is no longer a goal to which we as a society ascribe. Perhaps “good” is just good enough. But in my case, I approach parenting and homemaking like I have every other challenge in my life be it professional or academic. I strive for greatness. To condemn any one, man or woman, for taking steps to achieve that, in my opinion, is just as archaic as the idea that women are only meant to fulfill one role in their lives.

I'm greatly offended that someone would equate an educational pursuit to throwing money down a garbage disposal, especially one that serves only to enable an individual to become a better homemaker. Education is a gift, a wonderful opportunity to expand our minds and achieve our goals. As women in the United States we have more rights and opportunities than many of the women in the world, yet we waste time debating the “correctness” of providing a course that teaches fundamental skills. I personally love learning and fully support the openness of education, and my life is a testimony to that fact. I have an IQ of 178, so I believe women are equally as smart and capable as men. I have two bachelor’s degrees with three interdisciplinary minors including courses in home economics and family studies. Just as I believe that education and freedom of knowledge is essential, I also believe that women should have every opportunity to succeed in whatever profession they choose. I myself have worked as a journalist in both print and online, managed a multi-media production company, and been in positions that required my skills as a technical writer and editor. I’ve been president of numerous professional organizations, worked for an international journalism committee, and been coordinator for a publisher’s advertising and marketing department. Of all these jobs, not one is as difficult as the work I do now in my home with three children, nor do any equal its importance. I gained a great deal from my college education, but the knowledge that I utilize daily is not Physical Cosmology, Shakespearean Literature or News Writing 101, it is the courses in child development, home economics and life management.

You see, I think that it is insulting for anyone to say that a person should just “get” how to be a parent or homemaker. That really makes no sense whatsoever. The very notion that the most important and most demanding pursuit of one’s life is not something that we should prepare for beforehand is simply ridiculous. Seriously, how many professions do we just “get” into with no formal training – and if by chance it occurs, how many times is that successful. In my lifetime I haven’t seen it occur too many times. After all, if we as a society believe that women or men are just supposed to acquire these skills through on-the-job experience, aren’t we somehow saying that this work is less challenging than others? Isn’t there an implication that preparation isn’t necessary – a “just do it” mentality? Aren’t we implying that it’s just that easy and that anyone who encounters difficulties is just substandard in their abilities?

Early on, I remember facing feelings of inadequacy that I had never faced before as a result of that exact mindset – because I didn’t want to admit that I wasn’t “getting” something that was supposed to be in my “nature.” Now I know that is simply not true. Of course you have to work, study and learn to become a homemaker just as you would in any other field. In actuality, the belief that “hands on experience” is sufficient to provide training for a position of this magnitude and scope is illogical. The problem of today’s discussion is not that women are being defined by their role in the home, but that the position of homemaker is not considered an official job that requires skill and preparation in order to succeed. Perhaps it’s because we don’t have Mommy Emmy’s with red carpet galas, gold statues and lights. Perhaps it is because in the past women were so limited to that role that they are quite hesitant to extol it as legitimate, equally-valid career choice. Perhaps it’s just because we scrub toilets. In any case, it is against the tenants of our belief system to restrict another’s choice or to limit the blessings of liberty for others. Anyone interested in this course should have the right and opportunity to attend it, and schools should not be vilified for answering the needs and wants of their students.

Ms. Hamman mentioned learning from other women, a method which has been utilized throughout documented history. However, what many people fail to realize is that there are many women who don’t have a support structure to help them learn how to achieve the skills of being a homemaker and parent. In the past, the structure of our families, and our society made this a very good way to learn how to be a homemaker, but that was a different time. Just as we have seen in statistical studies again, and again, our environment has changed the way we live and how we prepare to live out our lives. There is a clear trend in the way we have fractionalized, as a society through transportation and the natural dilution of cultural influences. It’s not limited to gender, it’s just a matter of fact – statistically we have seen that many men are affected in much the same way by a lack of a support base as he takes on the responsibilities of husband and father, with results that are quite detrimental to children and families. In addition, our society is changing so rapidly that one generation deals with quite different challenges and technologies than the next. The generational passing-on of homemaking knowledge is simply no longer sufficient.

And as to the “sexist” bent of the course being offered, I think that there is educational value in offering this material in this format. If making this course for women only makes the learning environment more user-friendly for the students, then I support that. Personally, I would feel more open to sharing my difficulties and asking revealing questions if men were not present in a class such as this. When I’m with my girl friends I feel more like sharing my concerns openly. I believe that feeling would apply even more in this case because I feel men often have perception that women should “know” these things already. For me, that’s judgmental and a bit distracting to my learning process. Likewise, women who had grown up with more homemaking responsibilities might make male students feel intimidated and impede their progress. Therefore, I believe that offering a similar course of equivalent nature for men would be excellent and most appropriate. Men definitely need to have these skills just as women do. By having two courses, it would be an indication that the university is not endorsing a particular life role for women, but merely providing the educational material in the most effective format and comfortable environment for the students.

As to the interview itself, this live format is so very difficult to evaluate – I mean, the length of time available in and of itself creates a sound-bite quality type interview. It’s difficult to guide an interview that contains two such charged opposing opinions within such a limited time frame. Your interviewee’s have to be succinct in their responses, and it’s the interviewer’s responsibility to be neutral and see that the information gets covered while vital points are addressed by both parties. Sometimes people aren’t prepared. Sometimes people get rushed. Sometimes people have agendas. Regardless, the interrupting is just rude and adults should know better. My 3-year-old who was playing in the living room floor as I watched the interview said so.

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CE — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:40:03 GMT

I am a freshman in college. I believe that if women chose to be a homemaker we should praise them. Women who stay at home to take care of their children are showing their kids just how important they are to them. I know that some women need or want to go into the work force others do both. Both are great and I am not saying that if a women works that she is not showing her kids that they mean alot to her, but there are so many kids that do not get the attention they need or the love they need at home when their parents work all day. Alot of the way a child acts is based on what is seen and how they are treated. If a young girl does not feel loved by her parents most of the time she turns to some boy to get the love she needs and usually not in good ways. I know it is not always that way but look at the world today so many young teens are getting pregnant and then have to raise that child. This course could help teach moms or future moms how to be better moms when they are home. I think we all should learn more about what the course has in it so we can know if it is only a course to make women into homemakers. Men I am not saying that you cannot learn to help out in the home. Personally, I applaud you for stepping up to help out your women and kids. Thank-you for your time.

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Larinda Smith, Texas — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:55:38 GMT

Southwestern Theological Seminary is a PRIVATE College. You CHOOSE to go there. Your tax money is not paying for it! If they want to provide a program like this, than great, because they are PRIVATE! The Amish women practice these lessons daily, but you don't see the Today Show degrading them publicly for their actions. Nothing destructive to civilization can come from these courses, in fact it's right the opposite. Hopefully, stronger families are built from these classes. This was a low blow from the Today Show, because it does not affect them in any way. Instead of beating up on the positives in this world, why don't you try promoting them, because this world has enough negatives on its own.

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Daylan Jellinick — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:05:41 GMT

Unfortunately, I was only able to watch the introduction to this story before being sidetracked by a 6 year old getting ready for gymnastics camp, a four year old who had just woken up and wanted his breakfast and a 2 year old who wanted to go outside to swing. But, in those brief few moments I became, one again, frustrated by this belief that women shouldn't be allowed to choose their own path.

Unbelieveably, this is not coming from men in power who want to keep us out of the workplace, but from women who feel the right to choose is only delegated to those who want to choose what their field is outside the home.

I graduated from college with a degree in Marketing and Finance. I found a job in my field, was respected for the work I did and was rewarded accordingly. After 2 years of marriage, my husband and I decided to start a family. I always thought I would be the working mom - I wanted to rise up the coporate ladder and have my husband raise the kids. My boss at the time, also a woman, tried to stear me in that direction. But when the dream of having children became a reality, I chose to follow in my mother's footsteps. She chose to stay home after college and raise her children. In the last few years of being at home, I have come to respect and admire her in more ways than ever.

Whose right is it to choose for others? If women at this University choose to major in Homemaking, let them - it is their choice. The choice to work outside or inside the home is the choice all women should have the right to make without fear of criticism or censure.

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Deana G, Seattle WA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:23:08 GMT

Ann, maybe you should have a look back at the tape and decide whether you were actually moderating this discussion, because it seemed very one-sided to me.

Wanting to be a better parent and Homemaker is not a throwback to the fifties. I see this a common goal of parents today, whether they work inside or outside of the home. This degree program should be offered to anyone who is interested, women and men as well.

I value my choice to be a Homemaker, but I face challenges everyday. Advice from family and friends isn't always helpful or available. I would love to have the opportunity to take some of the courses available in the Homemaking degree program.

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James Maxwell, Littleton, Colorado — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:25:47 GMT

As I watched the interview this morning, I was disgusted at the rudeness of Rachel Hamman and her determination that only her point of view be represented. Ann did little provide an opportunity for expression by Glenn Williams. Rachel Hammon exhibited a prime example of intolerance for any posture but her own, including that of other women. She apparently believes that the opinions or desires of other women have no value unless they fit into the “Hammon” perspective or definition of “women’s roles.” As I understand it, the requests to establish a homemaking degree at the college came from women. Women have designed the curriculum. It is their desire that it be for women only. Apparently these women feel that their “on the job” training has been inadequate and would like to meet with other “homemakers” and increase their understanding and skill as wives and mothers. Perhaps they view those roles as significant responsibilities. Certainly these women should be given the opportunity to freely pursue whatever course of learning they desire. Isn’t that what advocates of women’s rights have desired? Rachel Hamman has apparently assumed that her direction is ultimately the “only valid one” and these women should have no right to choose for themselves. Her intolerance of these women’s desires sends the liberation of women back much farther than the 1950’s.

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Vicki Adams, Papillion, NE — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:36:57 GMT

I find it interesting that most of those who were "appalled" by the interview were either stay at home moms and/or had a home economics background. The rallying cry that "feminist" women who support the right to choose are somehow denying stay at home moms the right to choose is a red herring. I didn't hear anything that suggested or implied that homemaking was a distasteful choice in and of itself. The point was that it should be made available to both men and women alike and the fact that it was being made available to women only indicated that it was "women's work". Period. Maybe the stay at homes ought to figure out why they are so defensive about the subject.

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donna rennie — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:37:24 GMT

in the early 60's learning how to sew and how to cook were part of the L.A. areas 7th grade classes that were manditory.. now i learned a lot from that but more at home.. today in a country that is so busy that family has fallen by the wayside and that the children are affected more that parents would like to admit.. that having classes in college i think it is a great idea .. you need a licensen to drive a car, you need a licensen to have a dog, but you sure do not need anything to have a child and to be a good parent til after damnage is doneand then in many cases child protective services has had to interveined.. so i am all for it.. i am a nurse have been for 40 years and i think i believe that classes are vital to learn other methods of raising children instead of what our parents are did or what our friends are doing.. it is a fact that i do sew, i do crochet, and do lots of crafty things, making many things.. but did my daughter learn how to do this nope.. is she a good mom, a good cook, a good partner yes, she is but when she needs mending done she brings it over to me.. or she trys.. until i told her it was time to learn how to do this herself..
i am in favor of teaching these things but it needs to go back into the high school where it will reach everyone and it needs to be offered to men as well as women.. just to learn the basics and to know how to do what many of us older womem and men learned and take for granted....it needs to go back into the jr. high school class room..

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Mindy Stanley, Phoenix, AZ — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:38:00 GMT

I personally do not have anything against a school offering a degree in homemaking, HOWEVER, I do have a problem with it being offered only to women. It is sexist and implies that men do not need to take a role in managing the home. I was especially offended by the comment that they hope to reduce the divorce rate with this class. Do they think that the only reason couples divorce is because the woman is not a great homemaker? Give me a break.

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Marie T., Jacksonville, Florida — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:42:28 GMT

I'm a totaly career driven mom who loves the right to climb the corporate ladder and earn more $$ for my kiddos. But I've also known numerous amazing women whose sole desire has been to fill the role of wife and mother. For these women there have traditionally been two choices at a college level:
1) don't go -- afterall, I've heard many feminist also complain that it's a waste of time/money for a degreed woman to stay home.
2) spend time and money and get a degree in something you'll never use. I find this funny in light of Mrs. Hammon's comment about money in the garbage disposal.

Many of my SAHM friends have said they would have loved to take classes in homemaking. Heck, as a working mom I'd love to know how to make more nutritious meals and use that stupid $300 sewing machine in my basement. Most universities offer degrees in nutrition and early childhood development, this is just an extension of this -- geared for women who asked for this education.

For Ann and Mrs. Hammon to blast the guy from Focus on the Family, well, it's laughable and expected. Afterall, we are fine with a woman's right to choose her path, but just not for her to get the support, education and skills needed to stay home.

As for me, Mrs. Hammon, I'd love to learn homemaking from my friends and family, but most of us had working moms who don't know how to do it. The only cooking skill I learned from my mother was how to make a mean hamburger helper!!

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Denise L., Boca Raton, FL — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:46:21 GMT

A few points:
1. True feminism offers women freedom of choice... including the choice to stay home and be caring wives and moms.

2. Being a mother and wife, and running a home, is not an easy task. It involves child development, psychology, money and time management, nutrition, first-aid know-how, etc. Practical things like meal-planning are great things to offer today's generation given that so many families opt for eating out (unhealthy and expensive) because they have no resources to cook for themselves.

3. Stay-at-home moms are NOT opting for the easy route!(I hope a similar program is offered to male students in the future, since they'd undoubtedly learn a lot from it!)

3. The degree doesn't prevent women from getting a job in the future should they choose to get one. It seems to provide a good survey of general knowledge that can be built upon with a master's degree or provide a good background for a variety of jobs!

4. With so many women coming from broken families, etc. where could they have learned the many skills needed to successfully manage a home in today's high-paced world?

5. Glenn Williams was a true gentleman despite the demeaning knee-touching by Ms. Hamman and the constant interruptions by Ann Curry. Kudos to him for infusing the interview with at least some semblance of class and civility!

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Beth, Atlanta, GA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:49:06 GMT

I was glued to my TV during the interview hoping someone would finally give all of our mother's and grandmothers for many generations the credit they deserve - a degree. I learned more at my mother's and grandmother's knee than I did in college. Those skills transfer to running my own business today. Homemaking is one of the greatest things anyone (even men) can do for their family.
I am a single mom with my own business AND I'm a homemaker. I love it that I can sew, cook, mother a child, and run a great business. (No I don't cook or clean for work either.) I feel I'm the luckiest person in the world to have so many skills.
These days parents aren't teaching their children the skills that many of us learned at home. Most of my peers (in mommyhood) can't sew, many can't cook and even more don't want to. They think that others will think less of them if they do these things that aren't valued in our society.
Being able to take care of myself and my child in everyway is a wonderfully empowering experience. I recommend that every woman and man learn to be a homemaker and give those who choose that avenue for their life's work the respect they deserve.

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Natalie D Knesek, CFCS — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:58:08 GMT

I am disheartened that the story line downgraded my profession. The producers did everyone in the interview and those viewing a disservice by not addressing the central point -- the relevancy of the coursework. Though Southwestern Baptist has chosen to use an antiquated term for the courses they are offering as electives. Such courses are still very much a part of the profession known as Family and Consumer Sciences. The term "homemaking" has never refered to any official coursework to my knowledge; although Southwestern is chosing to use it now. I am a proud member of the American Association of Family and Consumer Sciences. I maintain my Certified in Family and Consumer Sciences credential which requires me to get 75 hours of continued education every three years. For me, this demonstrates my commitment to personal growth. Next year our profession will celebrate its Centennial. Ellen H Richards, credited with founding the profession of Home Economics, was a graduate of Vassar College and went on to be the first woman to ever attend MIT. I make this point to demonstrate that our coursework is not the "simple life facts not found in a text book" that Mrs. Hamman refered to but the profession now known as Family and Consumer Sciences has a strong Science background. Our membership is comprised of men and women who are dieticians and health/wellness specialists; interior designers; hotel and restaurant management supervisors; small business owners (like myself); educators (on all age levels); financial management consultants; cooperative extension agents; family and child therapists; and more. I am disappointed that neither of the people interviewed on the set were representative of the field of Family and Consumer Sciences. I would very much like to see a follow up story that makes right the misnomers that were projected loudly this morning.

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Patty Morada, Chicago, IL — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:02:11 GMT

First of all, I am so irritated with the debates on the Today show about Homemakers verses Working Mothers. They are never conducted fairly with an impartial mind...and usually slants towards the working mother. If you are going to have a debate...make it fair.

Second, I have a degree in human development and family services with a minor in child development. I worked in pediatrics for 9 years before I decided to have children and use my knowledge at home instead of letting someone else raise my children. Having said this...I would have loved a course like this to take before I made that decision. I know milestones and child guidance like the back of my hand, but making nutritional meals, running the finances and household budget, and time management of the kids would have been wonderful to know and not learn "on the job". One thing that Ms. Hammon kept saying was that there are other avenues to get this information...such as parents, aunts, other mom and such. I disagree, this generation of homemakers often had mothers that worked so where were they supposed to have learned their skills to pass down to us....there mothers? Then we get into a huge generation gap of what is appropriate for children and what is not because times have changed and pediatricians have changed their views so much on things. So no offence to my mother or Grandmothers, but I would rather take a couse on this than learn from them.

It's a sad state when we have to justify the caring for our families and children to people who claim they support that role like Ms. Hammon does with her books.

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Barbara Ava. MO — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:10:16 GMT

I was disappointed with the way Ann Curry handled the homemaking segment. The women completely took over the interview, but setting that aside I've been a homemaker for 46 years. I chose to do that. I have a college degree in Business Ed. "in case" I needed it, but didn't......My husband also has a college degree. I feel as if I've been a success in my career. We have 3, healthy, successful, happy children....l0 healthy, happy, successful grandchildren...That was my goal....to raise my family, with my husband's help. I'm sorry that when you tell people that you are a "homemaker", they instantly think that you "don't work." Programs like this, doesn't help that image. If we want women to "have a choice" in this country, why not give them good homemaking classes to choose. Practically every woman will have a home of some description, and the majority will have children in their life, so why not give them some avenue to improve these life skills. As for men, they need to know all they can also....I'm a homemaker, I studied skills to help me in highschool, I went to college, I married and stayed at home and raised my family, and I don't regret a day of it.

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Dawn Crooks, Greenville, SC — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:03:14 GMT

Home Economics courses are available at most State colleges and universities, and some technical schools. These courses have been around forever and will continute to be around. At my hometown college you could substitute Home Vegetable Gardening for a math course (depending on your major). However, these courses are open to everyone. That's the point. There was no sexual stereotyping, no discrimination, no barriers to anyone. My husband took several courses in Home Economics (almost enough for a minor). He was not discriminated against and he is, by the way, an excellent cook; he can sew anything and fix the car. Our tomatoes this year are wonderful. I choose to work outside the home; he chose to work at home.
If you note my address, you will understand that I am within a stone's throw of Bob Jones University and live in the buckle of the Bible Belt. I know about Southern Baptists--a lot about Southern Baptists. It does not surprise me that the course is for women only. Ministry leadership is for men only. They make a big deal about women being of "equal value", but declare at their convention that women must be obedient and subservient...yes, subservient, to men. Their place is in the home with the family. Theirs is not a discrimination against women in the home; they advocate it. Theirs is discrimination against any semblance of role reversals. That I work and my husband stays home would horrify quite a few Southern Baptists.
The point of the program and the interview wasn't really about feminisim, traditional roles or half the comments people have made in this blog. It was about discrimination and the basis of that discrimination. It discriminates against people like my husband who might choose to stay home, and the basis of that discrimination is simple: it's MY place to be at home--I'm the woman! It's HIS place to work outside the home--He's the man! This type of discrimination and sterotyping has got to go. The interviewers were on target grilling the bigot. Anyone with an open mind understands the implication of this women ONLY course.

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Liz - South Dakota — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:41:34 GMT

Many are comparing this to a home economics type of study. The Home Economics School at Iowa State was mentioned. My mom also attended the Home Economics School where she received a degree in graphic design. There were also majors in textiles, nutrition, etc. - and there were plenty of men in these majors as well. As majors, these are all very specialized and have real viable job opportunities. I'm not sure if a general degree in "homemaking" is quite the same thing. If it was home economics, they'd call it home economics. They call it homemaking. It seems more focused on being "a good wife and mother.” And while this is in no way a bad thing, I doubt it could translate into a job that could financially support a family, if need be, as well as some other majors…

Generally, I have two major problems with this particular idea of a homemaking major at this school:

A) Why is this course only for women? Why are men not allowed to enroll? I heard the question asked, but was never given a straight answer.
What restricting this course to women does is send a clear message about “appropriate” gender roles – women’s place is in the home, men’s is as the breadwinner. Forget women in the workforce - what about all the stay at home dads? Women are supposed to aspire to be homemakers, but not men? Women are not the only ones that deserve to have a choice!

B) The spokeswoman for the university claimed this was supposed to strengthen family and marriage, prevent divorce, etc. While I could see how this coursework could make you a "proficient" homemaker and mother, I highly doubt it is the key to lowering divorce rates. I'm sure in most cases far greater problems than a wife's ability as a homemaker caused the marriage to end. And if a man ever did divorce his wife for burning the meatloaf too many times, she's probably better off without him.

My mother the graphic design major has spent 25 years as a stay-at-home mom/homemaker and she is awesome at it. But before that, she spent many years single with a career. It took her awhile to find the right guy (my dad) - so even if a woman plans to be a homemaker, it may take some time until she finds the right guy to have a marriage and family with – so she better have a back up plan! And being ready, mature, and with the right person - that's got to lower the divorce rate!

What I think would be more beneficial for everyone is, at all schools, offer or even require a basic class for freshmen men and women on home economics - basic cooking skills, cleaning, laundry, budgeting, etc. Most students could benefit from this.

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Beverly Prentice, Graham, WA — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:02:19 GMT

I am a women that is proud to be a homemaker and I have a husband that is also in praise of my efforts. He comes home from a hard day's work to a loving wife and quiet, peaceful atmosphere where I have dinner waiting for him. Then I see other families in America....both spouses come home and there is chaos..who is going to cook? Meanwhile who is really raising the kids while both parents are away at work?

I think having a course on Keeping the Home is a great idea because let's face it...some modern day women were off making the almighty dollar rather than teaching their girls how to be women and feminine. So these girls that soon grow up and in their mind they want to be like the women of "ole"....doing their rightly roles and having a homemaking course is a great way for them to learn.

More homes would be happy and divorce would be lower if men performed their roles and women likewise. I'm thankful I have a real man who won't subject me to work on a job outside of my home, because I'm delicate and as he calls me....his "queen". I look up to him and he admires me.

So to sum it all up.....we need more Homemaking courses or better yet how about some more homemakers?

P.S. Was decades ago so bad? Funny how there were LESS divorces and more happy homes. Look at society today......is this were changing roles of the man and woman got America?

*From a happy submissive homemaker, mother and wife to a wonderful man

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g.eglesias pennsylvania — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:10:33 GMT

As for Ann and Rachel ganging up on Mr. Williams, give me a break! Mr. williams is a grown man, and he can speak up for himself. In one post I read, one lady even accused Rachel of not being able to keep her hand off his knee for God's sake! (How Ridiculous!

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Sheila Borst, Tucson AZ — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:24:23 GMT

I was amazed on the feminist view of motherhood. I have heard that they just don't get it and I now know it is true. I am a stay at home mom of 2. I have always wanted to have a family. I never wanted to have children for other people to raise. I believe we can have it all but not all at the same time. I plan on going back to school. Where I was an elementary education major I have decided business. I would love to have have home economics available to me. I feel that the things I would learn there would help me run my home more efficiently. Raise intelligent and respectful children and do my part is preserving the endangered species of the family. Rock on baptists!! I am not one but good for them. By the way I would like to add that BYU has a home economics. major and it is open to all students.

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Janet Miller, Newtown, PA — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:00:28 GMT

The Today Show is a must watch for me every morning since beginning my life as a stay-at-home mom last February. I have always been a fan but now that I am home I am loving it. I would swear my daughter knows Matt and Merediths voices :) But today I was disappointed with what I saw in the interview regarding the course in homemaking. I can't figure out why in a world that "preaches" tolerance for everyone we are so intolerant when something is contrary to our liberal views. We want conservative people to tolerate liberal thinking...shouldn't go both ways. If a small college wants to offer a course in homemaking and women want to take it, who cares??? There are plenty of other things going on in colleges today that are much more worthy of news and discussion than a simple course on homemaking. How about under-age drinking and cheating just to name two.
Normally I am a big fan of Ann but not today I wasn't. Sorry!

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Eugenie Graham, Muskoka Ontario Canada — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:27:53 GMT

I was a homemaker for 25 years. During my daughter's school years, I did the volunteer work that many working women weren't able to do. When I wanted to re-enter the workforce, I found opposition at many levels, including from the very women I had helped to make the choice to work. I made sacrifices at all levels, including income. "Just a housewife, was a normal expression".

If it takes a course in homemaking, to make women think differently about the roles that we can all play in society, and the acceptance of such, then great.

But if I had known then, what I know now, I would not have given up my day job. The loss of dignity isn't worth it.

Instead of feeling sorry for the working women with income, I wonder if this course suggests it is time to really think about the silent numbers of women who have filled in the gaps in volunteer service, taken the insults from others, who are really hurting. They are called homemakers, or housewives.

And they aren't rich.

From Canada

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Leslie Brennan, Suffolk, VA — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:43:02 GMT

I was enraged by the interview conducted by Ann Curry about the homemaker major option at SWBTS. I am dumbfounded by the negative and condescending comments made by the woman opposed to this option -- an option, according to the segment, presented to women, by women, for women, at a private college.

I cannot tell you how many times in my last seven years of marriage, and my last 3 years of being a mom, I have said out loud, "I wish I had taken some cooking/design/child education classes in college." My public relations degree served me well the first four years after graduating from the University of Florida, but classes such as the ones now offered at SWBTS would be serving me well on a daily basis and for the rest of my life.

Furthermore, the notion that a homemaker needs no training than that which she can glean from friends and family is ludicrous! What a stupid message to be sending young women in our society! I can tell when I come in contact with mothers who subscribe to this belief. These mothers would, no doubt, benefit from some classes offered through this "controversial" major.

I would gladly continue my rant concerning this interview. There are many more points I would love to make, but I have two darling girls downstairs who need my attention and breakfast. So I'll take my knowledge of typesetting and layout design, and see if it translates into making whole wheat waffles...

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Gaye, Akron — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 04:44:08 GMT

Having not seen the show and just read the synopsis (not the comments), I have a problem with the program being open only to women. With single parent households so prevalent nowadays, I feel it should be open to both women AND men. Men need the ability to learn to care for families as well as women. Many times women are the major breadwinners or men have the children in a household after divorce. Men need to learn the skills as well as women. It shouldn't be slanted towards women only. Join the new century. But, on the other hand, this is a Baptist theological seminary...what more can we expect?!

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Pat, Anaheim, CA — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 07:03:15 GMT

As a 30-year Hone Economics teacher, I couldn't help but comment. Here in California the Home Economics programs have been cut so drastically over the years, in both high school and colleges, that when I retired 5 years ago I wasn't replaced, and when a colleague retired a few years earlier, the school district couldn't even find a teacher with a Home Economics degree to replace her. The message over the past twenty plus years has been that Home Economics education wasn't very important. After all, students didn't need to learn how to cook, they could always get their food from McDonalds. They didn't need to sew because they could buy clothes ready-made. They certainly didn't need to learn how to balance the checkbook because the bank would let them know when they were overdrawn. Now when people wish they had this education and want to know why the schools don't teach it, maybe the answer is that they (students, parents, and school officials)just didn't think it was important enough. When they do decide they should have these classes, where will they find the teachers credentialed to teach these subjects?

Now we hear that a college wants to institute a "brand new" program. I wish them well, and hope they will reconsider their "females only" stance. My many male high school students could attest to the benefits of such classes for them.

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Rachel Hamman — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:58:16 GMT

Let me set a few things straight from yesterday's interview. First, I am a homemaker, so, I fully encourage and support women to become stay-at-home moms. My first concern with the course was that it is offered to "women only" and that the college did not beleive that it would be beneficial for men. If marriage and parenting is supposed to be a collaborative effort, then shouldn't both parents be encouraged to take an active role in making the home a better place for their children? I disagreed with the college trying to carve out gender roles. It is extremely limiting to both men and women. What about the man who wants to become a stay at home dad?
My second concern was about the content (or lack of content) in the Homemaking Cirriculum. Of course women should be able to learn about cooking or sewing if they so desire. What I was trying to say was that if they are offering the course with the intention of it lowering divorse rates (like the President of the college said at the begining of the segment)then I think that they might want to consider elements of the course containing other aspects of homemaking, in ADDITION to the cooking and sewing, such as Communication skills; Budgeting; and Time Management. These things are often mentioned for putting stress on a marriage and at the heart of why so many people get divorced.
So, for the record, I am a proud stay-at-home mom who does embrace being home with my kids. (And no, I do not have a nanny.) I am not a raging femenist, only a concerned Mom who wouldn't want my own daughter thinking that the responsibility for keeping a harmoneous home falls solely on the woman and that being a good homemaker means more than being able to bake cookies from scratch and sew your childrens' Halloween costumes. Being a good homemaker involves time, dediaction and persistance from both people at the helm of the family.

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Michelle, Virginia — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:42:25 GMT

I think that the course being offered is a wonderful idea. I am a working mother with four daughters and managing a household is an awesome responsibility. It is also difficult. I think it is the most important thing I do, my work is nowhere as fulfilling as providing a home for my children. I think moms who work within the home are a benefit to their family and society. It should be a choice not dictated by economics as it is in so many homes. I admire the families who have planned for and made the sacrifice to be at home. I wished when I was younger I had made better financial choices. Ironically, the Today show offers financial advise all the time, cooking tips, purchase ideas...what is so different in having a college course that embraces the ideals of managing a home? Is it because it is centered on Chrisitan values? Does our society not realize that our Country was founded on biblical principles and although a few try to wipe biblical truths from the face of our society it can't. Do we not want to live in a country where we have choices? So why try and limit somes choices in learing how to take care of a family? Sometimes when my girlfriends and I are sitting around chatting we debate what happened to our society before we entered adulthood and the impact that it has had on us. As a society we need to realize that we have an obligation and that individually what we choose to do does impact others and sometimes not in a positive manner. We shouldn't limit the majority for a fews opinion. Why is there such a debate? If the course isn't successful the college won't continue to offer it, if students choose to take the course then there must be an interest and a need. My mom had the opportunity to be a stay at home mom for twenty seven years, raising three children, but when divorce came she decided to go to school and then to work. Not because she had to but because she wanted to, and I realize that is not everyone's choice. I choose to work but I really have a passion to manage my home. Fortunately my husband and I are a great team and he feels it is his responsibility along with me to do so. I hope my girls have the opportunity to learn how to manage their home by my example and maybe a course at college. Isn't it obvious that there is trouble within the society with latch key kids, daycare raised children, the increasing divorce rate, and the decline of the family? I think it is time that we have a more balance and maybe this program is a step in the right direction. I believe the speaker representing the program should have been allowed to discuss the course without interruption but I find everyday watching television that there tends to be a bias and that if you don't have a liberal viewpoint then your viewpoint doesn't matter. Choice is the issue not the course. Education is important and I think the course has a true value.

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Faith, Ashland, VA — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 13:56:44 GMT

I think the course is a great idea. I think the college will find if there is an interest and they will make decisions about the course offerings by the success of their program. What I find alarming is that the representative could not get the message out for the constant interruptions. It seems to have been a bias interview. That's sad because the art of journalism isn't to have the journalist opinion but a clear view of the story. Maybe what should be reviewed is the courses taught to journalist. They have an awesome responsibility to show the story and I find that I have to sift through alot of opinions to get the meat and most times it is lost. I'm not offended by the course, I'm a mom raising four daughters and I have a career. By far my family and how I interact with them is more important than my career. It is tough balancing all the responsibilities but it sounds as the course has a lot to offer women. Why would you not want to learn the art of taking care of your family? If you look at cable there are tons of cooking shows, finance management shows, etc. Do you not think America could learn that the basis for a great society is a firmly founded home? I think the Today show has interesting topics and I would appreciate that they support the family and allow equal time to topics that have substinance. Thank you.

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Bunny Dumond — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:57:54 GMT

After thinking a lot about this interview, the one thing that stood out to me was that Ms Hamman was so defensive about having that this course of study even exist. We aren't requiring her to take it!
I applaud Southwestern for offering it to the women who might be interested in this course of studies. In our society where our families are now far apart many of the homemaking skills, like what I learned from my GreatGrandmother, are not being handed down as they were.

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Ken Curtis, Atlanta Ga — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:05:15 GMT

I find it odd that so many woman are offended that Mr Williams did little to uphold his side of the debate.

His first statement about not opening the course to men was sexist, I would love to hear one valid argument as to why men should not be included. But I guess Ann and Ms. Hamman should have "submitted" to his opinion and let him finish why it should be for men only.

His second comment he admitted to not knowing much about the curriculum (nice job researching Mr Williams before going on a national tv show).

His third comment was a rambling PSA for Focus on the Family which told me the real reason he agreed to participate in this debate. Great organization but it had little to do with the topic at hand.

This president of this college has had no problems sharing his views about what woman's roles should be and I am sure the course will reflect them. This is not your standard Home Economics couse or degree, it is an effort by the Baptist convention to turn back the clock instead of trying to come up with solutions that work in today's world.

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g.eglesias'pennsylvania — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:14:58 GMT

In addition to the earlier statement I made about Ann's interview with Mr. Williams and Rachel, I would also like to add, "When Ann asked Glen Williams -- Do they teach Submissiveness Glen??" He stuttered and said --QUOTE -- "I'm not familiar with the curriculum." --IF he is not familiar with the curriculum, HE SHOULD NOT BE ON THE TODAY SHOW TALKING ABOUT IT!!! --DUH !!!! -- I watched that interview, and I think Ann did a good job. Her questions were fair to both sides---And if Glen Williams, sounded & looked like a stuttering idot, that's his own fault, Not Ann's 0r Rachel's!!!

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Dorothy Kelley Paterson, Fort Worth, TX — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:11:12 GMT

Thank you, NBC, for having the interest, and apparently courage, to deal with a topic of great importance in the modern culture. Changes in society merit as careful a look as choices deserve consideration. Perhaps a future program can provide a more balanced discussion forum with firm and courteous direction from a chairperson who can guide the debate with the efficiency neutrality allows and time for expressing the different positions to be articulated.

Southwestern's homemaking concentration is 23 hours within over 120 hours of a very challenging humanities program requiring both Latin and Greek studies. The concentration is one of four offered and designed to serve as an introduction to careers ranging from homemaking or managing a household to other aspirations that spring from the skills introduced in this limited sampler.

Southwestern offers at least six programs specifically for women from the certificate up to the doctorate level as well as welcoming women to a host of other degree programs. Some of your listeners may be interested to know that men (and women) are required to take the course The Christian Home within the Master of Divinity program. I am teaching The Biblical Model for Home and Family, the first course for our homemaking concentration, and began yesterday with the maximum number of students projected for the class, all of whom have not selected the homemaking concentration but all having an interest in the subject.

Dorothy Kelley Patterson
Professor of Women's Studies in the School of Theology
Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

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Becky Baer, Pomeroy, OH — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:16:28 GMT

I am a Family and Consumer Scientist (which used to be called a Home Economist). I think the only thing wrong with having this college course is that it is not open to men. EVERYONE is a homemaker, whether you are male or female, whether you live with your family or live alone, whether you are a professional or blue collar worker, whether you are old or young. Everyone needs skills to provide shelter, food and clothing, to be able to manage his or her money, to balance work and family, to get along with others at home, work, school and in the community, and to know how to care for loved ones. I think every student should be mandated to take Family and Consumer Sciences in high school. If each person was taught these skills that are needed every day of one's life (which, by the way, algebra and chemistry are not), many of our societal problems (child and elderly abuse, divorce, personal bankruptcy, malnutrition and obesity, lack of work ethic, stealing, etc.) could be alleviated.

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Brad Naas, Portland, Oregon — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:49:25 GMT

A nice start. Perhaps someone could also look into how shop has changed into Technology Education. How the Americal Industrial Arts Association has changed into the International Technology Education Association (ITEA) and how some states and districts has allowed the change to help our kids where others have put many blocks in allowing the change. This applied Math and Science education that amounts to Engineering and career/vocational education would help our kids keep competitive in the world, move our schools to the 21 centery and help keep kids interested in schools. The news people would have quite a story with much depth and much willingness to help explain the changes that have taken place should you chose to look futher. a good starting place would be with the ITEA.

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MKG, Portland — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:25:10 GMT

Its too bad there isn't much value placed on women who want to stay home and raise their children. I gave up my career this year to stay home with my son and I would not have it any other way. I have the masters degree and the job experience to go back later should I choose. But I did not wait all these years for a child to have someone else raise it. What about kudos for those who make this choice willingly?

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Diane Nelson, Mamaroneck, New York — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 19:58:32 GMT

I teach Home and Career Skill to both boys and girls in a middle school in a progressive school district north of New York City. Besides nutrition, food safety and preparation, clothing, money management, child development, home design, resources conservation and career exploration, I include communication skills, time management, decision making, problem solving and resource management- skills that are important in the home or on the job - any job, including television show host. And besides, the kids love it. Voters should support Family and Consumer Science (Home and Career Skills) programs in their local schools.

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Liz L, Portland, OR — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 21:58:38 GMT

It's important to distinguish between a course that teaches a skill - cooking, auto mechanics, how to run an x-ray machine - from another that teaches an academic subject - the Civil War, Spanish, geology - from a third that combines subject matter with instruction in how to think and reason, to analyze, evaluate and extrapolate. I believe that university degrees should require the second two categories, and those that emphasize the third would, in my mind, best prepare a person for whatever life could toss in the way. Courses in the first category, however interesting, useful, or even critical they may be to some people and some careers, belong either in a trade or vocational program or as elective options for students to round out their course of study.

A woman who did not learn how to run a home and raise children from her family and friends should definitely learn all she can before she takes on those important responsibilities. There are courses, books, magazines, videos, websites, workshops, blogs and friends that can be valuable resources. But a degree in homemaking? The university is the wrong place for that.

And as a former stay-at-home mom, I must say that, were my children and my home my only interests and the ability to maintain them beautifully my only skills, I would have been dull company indeed for anybody not in the same boat at the time, including my husband ... and I have no idea what I would do with my time now that my children have graduated from college and are on their own. I have a teaching certificate and a masters degree: I guess I could ask that university to hire me to teach future homemakers. But I don't have time: I have a freelance PR and marketing business, volunteer my time and skills to several not-for-profits, and go to the gym so I can eat some of those yummy cookies I still bake.

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jr, west palm beach, fl — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:07:08 GMT

As a stay-at-home mom for past 7 years, I can tell you that no college degree could ever prepare you for the role of homemaker. When I had my children, my mother, who was a devoted wife and stay at home mom, told me that you can not learn how to be a wife or a mother from a book. You cannot acquire patience, warmth, empathy and the ability to nurture by taking a college course.

I fully support a woman’s choice to stay at home as do all “feminists”. I did it for seven years. Unfortunately, aside from America’s elite, not many of us are blessed with the opportunity to stay at home indefinitely. We are forced to return to the workforce to help support our families. I am thrilled for all of the privileged women who have posted before me and who are fortunate enough to stay at home for the rest of their lives and watch the Today Show every morning. This may be a perfect degree for them. I believe it used to be referred to as an “Mrs" degree. However, this is not a reality for most of America.

Armed with a business degree, I am now in the process of returning to the work force. I feel confident that I will be taken seriously and will be able to secure a position which will provide me with the salary needed to help support my family. I can tell you that if I had a degree in homemaking, it would open no doors for me – that includes in the field of education.

I would also add that in a good majority of the divorced couples that I know, the women were stay at home moms – women whose lives were devoted entirely to the care of their family. Are we to suggest that these couples divorced because the women were bad housewives? Or that had they been properly schooled, their husbands would have been more satisfied with the marriage and stayed? Where’s the partnership?

Ms. Hamman's comments were in full support of a stay at home mom’s right to choose whatever path she wants. She also stated that she supported courses which would assist in the practical skills of homemaking – time management, etc. This major also appears to teach mothers to be mothers only to their daughters. What about our sons? Would the college suggest we teach our sons to sew and cook? Would that make them better fathers? What about the courses for fathers in wood chopping and hunting and gathering – PLEASE!!

I know brilliant working women who are amazing wives, mothers, cooks and seamstresses – never having taken a course and not sitting home by the fire darning socks!

I also felt that the gentleman from Focus on Family (the same people who believe that homosexuals choose to be homosexual) stood quiet during most of the interview, giving me the impression that he was either unprepared for the interview or unconvinced that this was a viable major – even if homemaking was a woman’s “calling”. If Ann Curry and Ms. Hamman hadn’t spoken, there would have been silence. I would be interested to see if he or Dr. Dobson (Focus’s founder) would choose this major for their daughter.

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Betty Bird,Botkins, Ohio — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:00:40 GMT

The biggest disgrace of this is gender-bias. Everyone needs to learn how to run a home,for mere survival's sake. A woman needs to learn how to take care of the home and how to work outside of it because the men in her life(~dad,bro,husband) might serve in the military,fall ill or die one day. And a man needs to learn it to pull the slack when the women(read~ helping mom,sis,wife,etc.) in his life fall ill or pass on. Life is a team effort. We all have the right to learn how to cope with life and I think its time we all start fighting for it!

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Desiree Maerz, Sylvan Lake, AB — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 23:56:37 GMT

When I became a wife, I wanted to be a good wife, and I felt like keeping the house up was an impossible task. Five years later I am more organized, and it all gets easier every year. It would have been helpful to take such a course, if it meant eleviating some of the frustrations along the way. As for the women who think that this is a sexist course, when was the last time you came home and found your husband scrubbing behind the toilet?

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SCC, Maitland, Florida — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:46:40 GMT

Here we have two women who are arguing to protect the rights of the males so that they might be allowed to pursue this degree if they choose to in order to create a solid foundation for the family and the home. They are debating with a man who heads up an organization which claims to "Focus on the family," but who believes that men should not, could not or do not need to be given the opportunity to participate in creating solid family values at a college which states as a part of their mission statement that they are family focused, but are not willing to allow men to pursue this degree that they state has been put into place in order to teach solid family principles. Wow! that's a little messed up if you ask me. Is Southern Baptist saying that the problem with families today is the sole cause and responsibility of the female? Is this why they believe that men “need not apply,” because they believe the issues associated with the high divorce rate in this country stem from the fact that we as women are not stepping up and fulfilling the duties of cooking, cleaning, taking care of children and sewing? I am shocked and disgusted by this narrow minded view point. During the early part of my marriage, I had an equal hand in providing for my family’s financial requirements as well as being a homemaker, and I know that both my husband and I share in the needs and responsibilities of the home. Like many couples, for a period of time, we needed two incomes in order to pay the bills. This is not a bad reflection on my husband and his abilities as a father and husband, and this was certainly not a negative reflection on me as a wife and mother. I am now a stay at home mom, and I am working toward getting my college degree. My husband and I work hard to keep a healthy relationship and I agree with Ms. Hamman; the problems with the high divorce rate and the need for a solid foundation in the home is not a requirement of one person in the relationship to correct, but is the responsibility of both parties to educate themselves on what is necessary to create a healthy and rewarding relationship.

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Melissa, Onley, Va — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:09:13 GMT

I am a working mother that also cooks, cleans and raises my children with good family values. I went to school because I was interested in healthcare, but also so that I could be self sufficient if needed. This course will put women in a bad situation if their path does not lead to being a stay at home mom. They will then have very little job skills to make it in the world today. I think it is important to offer electives that men and women can choose to take, but a homemaking major just for women really does take women back to the 1950s. I agree with Ms. Hamman that homemaking is an on the job training. I hope programs like this don't spread to other colleges.

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Jodi W. — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 16:28:31 GMT

The following is from an actual 1950's Home Economics Textbook...
1.) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead (even the night before) to have a delicious meal on time. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him, and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospects of a good meal are part of the warm welcome needed.
2.) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting. His boring day may need a lift.
3.) clear away clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives, gather up school books, toys, paper, etc. Then run a dust cloth over the tables. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too.
4.) Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children's hands and faces if they are small, comb their hair, and if necessary, change their clothes. They are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part.
5.) Minimize the noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of washer, dryer or vacuum. try and encourage the children to be quiet. Greet him with a warm smile and be glad to see him.
6.) Some DONT'S. Don't greet him with problems or complaints. Don't complain if he's late for dinner. Count this as a minor compared with what he might have gone through that day.
7.) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or suggest he lay down in his bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low soothing and pleasant voice. Allow him to relax and unwind.
8.) Listen to him. You may have a dozen things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first.
9.) Make the evening his. Never complain if he does not take you out to dinner or to other places of entertainment. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his need to be home and relax.
10.) The goal...Try to make your home a place of peace and order where your husband can relax.

So, after reading this, can anyone "honestly" tell me that this is not so totally going back to the 50's??? That this will help w/ the divorce rate??? (sure, let's be unhappy and miserable, but stay together for the "kids' sake!) That this is not being totally submissive to men??? SBTS...WAKE UP! Women have come too far to go backwards, and I feel sorry for those of you that are so "brainwashed" by your men, and your religion. Where are the classes for men??? Shouldn't they have courses, books, etc, for Men, on how to treat his wife and kids?? This whole idea of "Homemaking 101" is absurd. Thank God that Ann and Rachel are Women of the 21st century. They were prepared for the interview...and realize the importance of not keeping women repressed. And poor Mr. Williams didn't have a chance to get a word in...Too bad he wasn't prepared and didn't KNOW what to say). Kudos to Ann and Rachel, for standing up for all of the Women before them that have fought so hard to come this far!

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Lindsey H, Richmond, VA — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:08:54 GMT

I too am one who just received a Bachelor's degree in Home Economics in May '04. I was asked to start a HE program in a large school in Baltimore, MD, but did not pursue it for personal reasons. I knew in high school that I wanted HE to be my major. Why you may ask? I knew that I wanted a family one day and that I wanted to know how to take care of them in all aspects of life. Although people look at me in disbelief and sometimes laugh when they hear what my major was, I loved my major and wouldn't have traded it for anything! I learned SO much in great detail including topics such as nutrition, child care and development, sewing, personal finance, home entertaining, time management, extensive orgainzational patterns, cooking, and even things like reupholstering furniture! I get calls from my friends all the time (I am 25 yrs. old) asking me what they can use as substitutions in their cooking, cleaning tips, whether or not they can combine certain ingredients, etc. I've even been called and asked about whether or not they could put certain clothes together in the laundry. People aren't learning these things from their moms anymore growing up and it's stuff that as women who will be running a household one day, we need to know! I am not married yet and live in an apartment and cannot even begin to tell you how my major has helped me. I think I would have been scared to move out if I wouldn't have been prepared with the skills that I learned in school. In fact, quite the opposite was true! I couldn't wait to move out and put everything into practice that I had learned at school. While I am not a full time homemaker (I just started nursing school this semester), the skills that I learned have been invaluable. The organizational skills and time management skills that I acquired have been my key to success in managing working a full time job while also being in nursing school. I personally would recommend any and all women (and men...there are many single dads and bachelors afterall that could certainly use these skills as well) take at least a basic course if you have the opportunity. You would be amazed at the amount of money that a homemaker can save by not putting the kids in daycare, by making your own decorative pillows, drapes, or shower curtains that people can't even tell are homemade! You can easily spend $15-20 on a decorative pillow (and use 2-3 on a couch) that you could make for less than $5! While in school, my dad came up with a new name for those of us taking up this "profession!" According to him, we are "Domestic Engineers" which truly is a good name for everything that a homemaker does.

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Beth, Floyd, VA — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 17:39:40 GMT

Shame on you Ann. You just proved that you don't really believe in women making their own decisons about what they want to do, you'd decided that homemaking is no a decision we should be allowed to make. I am a professional woman, have a masters degree and work very hard at my "paying" job. However, the job I do that I am most proud of is that of wife and homemaker. My husband knows it is my dream to be able to afford to be a full time homemaker. We haven't gotten there yet, but he is supportive of my goal. I have used my degrees to help support his goal of a degree. This mutual respect and support has sustained our family and our marraige for almost 20 years. I was raised to be opinionated, independent, determined and hard working. I have used those skills to decide on my own that I value making a home and life for my family which I believe will ensure they grow up to be caring, contributing members of our society. An example is that we have spent the past three weeks canning the vegetables and fruits which I and my family grew in our home garden. If you think for a moment that it is taking me back to the 50's you are sadly mistaken. I am not only providing my family with a safe source of food, but saving us money at the same time. My children are learning skills in growing and caring for plants. They raise our chickens/eggs and market lamb. I'm teaching them life skills. My son's as well as my daughter are learning to clean, cook, sew, grow, mow, and live well. By the way, I could not have learned much of this from my Mother because she didn't like gardening and she hated to sew. This means I've made independent decisions, which I beleive is the real purpose of being a feminist. I'd love to take classes or workshops on these and many other homemaking subjects and often do. Please stop assuming what women want and let us make our own decisions.

Live From Studio 1A: Homemaker's Education?

Mo, Wichita, KS — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:10:56 GMT

Offer and take whatever classes you want but I don't think the male sex should be excluded fromthis one. I feel it is extremely inportant for both parents to be able to take care of the children - and them selves. Trying to keep a house clean and organized and also feed everyone is not any easy thing to do. I figured as an adult, everyone (male and female) should at least know the basics so that they can care for themselves and anyone else in their care. let's face it people, Daddy at work and Mommy at home just does not work for the entire world. everyone should have a little caretaking skills if you ask me.

Live From Studio 1A: Homemaker's Education?

Peggy Lee Soublet-Hatten — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:50:16 GMT

I don't know where to start when it comes to this subject. I am currently a Homemaker and I am considering rejoining the workforce again.
I did not work when I first had my son because I was afraid of all the "bad things" that could happen to my son if I put him in daycare. I could never forgive myself if I did that.
I also remember the days that I would of loved to have adult interaction also. Some Moms didn't even take time to say "Hello, My name is... at the grocery store in order to be friendly. I thought that when I became a Mom the other Moms would rush to make friends with me. It would be a kind of "Circle of Moms". Like friendly home parties where they sell home decor and stuff.
Well, I decided to stay at home. That way I would not miss out on my sons "formative years". He is now 15 years old. And I am wondering why any Mom would question the choice she or any other Mom makes when it comes to her family. You do what is right. And if a college course is offered it, should be the choice of the woman to take it or not. I just think it would be great if the college offered it to Dads also. If not then that is sexual discrimination.
I disagree with Bill Patterson of Charlotte, NC because of the fact that a woman has a degree in Homemaking he would nor hire her? Where is his logic?
Was he denied the stability of a stable home where his Mom made hot home cooked dinners and washed his dirty clothes? Took care of him when he was sick?
Who has the right to deny someone a chance to work for money when they have devoted time to learning how to care for their family when the "broken" family is why the world is in chaos now?
A strong family helps to develop strong people which results in a having a strong country and that's what America needs. If you have no respect for the family you in turn have no respect for yourself.

Live From Studio 1A: Homemaker's Education?

Sharon Hechler — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 02:09:41 GMT

I, for one, feel that Ann & Ms. Hamman handled the subject well. I commend them for standing up for womens' rights....why not open the class to men as well?!

Live From Studio 1A: Homemaker's Education?

Melissa, Louisville KY — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:06:04 GMT

I think something that most of you are forgetting is that this degree is voluntary--those ladies who would want to study this do, it's not like the seminary is forcing all women to only get a degree like this.