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Centenarians reflect on elections past

Posted: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:01 PM by Ian Sager
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From John Rutherford, Producer, NBC News, Washington

Centenarian LaGrand Nielsen, who was Dwight Eisenhower's dentist in the Army, remembers the nation's 34th president as a good man with a great set of teeth.

"I met Ike in 1939 at Fort Ord, Calif., and that's where I got to know him pretty well," LaGrand, 101, of Sandy, Utah, said recently. "Checked his teeth a couple of times and cleaned them. Had a beautiful set of teeth. Wonderful fellow. Wonderful officer. He was a lieutenant colonel when I met him, but he ended up a 5-star general."

LaGrand saw Ike again in Washington, D.C., during World War II. Eisenhower and his wife Mamie invited LaGrand and his wife Beatrice to their quarters in Bethesda, Md.

"We spent the afternoon visiting for a couple of hours and had lunch, and we just had a wonderful visit," LaGrand said. "We talked about life and military life and what it had done for him, and I was a career man then myself. I was a captain, maybe a major at the time, and he was a general.

"Mamie and my wife got along real well," LaGrand said. "Mamie was very humble and sweet."

LaGrand last saw Eisenhower after the war when Ike talked to LaGrand's Boy Scout troop on Governors Island in New York City.

"He said the one thing he missed in his life when he was growing up, and he was raised in Kansas, you know, was that he was never in the Boy Scout program," LaGrand said. "He had nothing but praise for the Boy Scouts."

LaGrand had nothing but praise for Ike, whom he supported for president in 1952 and 1956.

"He was just one of the boys," LaGrand said. "He was just one of us. He was very humble, very courteous. He didn't say one negative word about anybody, and I admired that, and he had a good set of teeth."

Louise Ashton, 102, of Albany, Ga., a lifelong Democrat, also liked Ike.

"The only time I was really, really threatening to vote Republican was when Eisenhower ran," Louise said. "I thought he was a very smart man, and I appreciated what he had done for our country."

But Ike didn't get her vote, because he wasn't a Democat. I asked Louise how long she'd been voting the straight Democratic ticket.

"Well, let's see, since around 1924," she said.

Why did you always vote Democratic?

"Because my daddy did," she said with a laugh. "I thought he was a very smart man."

Why did he vote Democratic?

"Well, now, that I really don't know," she said. "But I know we all followed in his footsteps, and he lived to be 102."

So you did what your dad told you to do?

"Right, right," she said. "That's the way it used to be. It isn't that way anymore."

With her father no longer around to guide her, Louise isn't sure how she's going to vote this year.

"I've got my absentee ballot on my desk, and I am still pondering and listening and reading and trying to determine who is the best person to vote for," she said. "I didn't know I was going to live this long to make this big a decision."

One centenarian with no such doubts is John "Cas" Casparis, 100, of Austin, Texas. He's voted for Democrats all of his life, except once, in 1928, when Democrat Al Smith and Republican Herbert Hoover were running against each other for president.

"I voted against Al Smith, the Democrat, because living up there in Johnson City, Texas, in those small towns, you get prejudice, and I'm a Protestant, and Al Smith was a Catholic, and I voted a prejudice vote that I'll never live down," Cas said. "I'll regret that until I die."

So how are you voting this year?

"I'll pull one lever," he said. "The Democrat, yes, sir."

Photos: Dentist LaGrand Nielsen at Fort Ord, Calif., circa 1939 (family photo);  Gen. Dwight Eisenhower and wife Mamie smile at each other, 1945 (AP Photo); Louise Ashton, 102, in 2008 (family photo).

LaGrand, Louise and Cas were three of the centenarians featured by Willard Scott on NBC's TODAY show. If you know of any centenarians who've had a brush with history over the past century, please tell us a little bit about them in the comments section below and be sure to fill in your return e-mail address so we can get back to you for more details.

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If it's good enough for the old folks, it should be good enough for the rest of us! I'm just 78 years old but like the people you've written about, I'll be voting Democratic again this year. Once again we need someone in charge who'll look out for the common man & woman.
Thank you for the beautiful story!
Great story.  Thank you for sharing these three very experienced and wise people with us, Mr. Rutherford. My mother, too, always voted Democrat right through Al Gore before she passed away at 83.  And I am following in her footsteps!  
Comments like, Voted Dem. Cause My Folks always did, is like believing Republicans caused 29 depresion. Knowledgeable folks know or have learned better. I have voted since Eisenhower. Twice for a Dem.; Jack Kennedy and Jimmy Carter. In todays politics Jack would be considered a Republican and Bobby too.
Just like most of the nation it isn't about the facts or how a candidate stands but the ticket or because thats what they have always done. You would think they could wake up and at least tryt o understand the vote.
The only thing that surprises me is the rigidity of how the lady voted because her "Dad"did.  I myself liked Ike but was a couple years too young to vote for him on his second term.  I would have tho.  To have seen the country then and now is saddening.  Be nice for these 100+ years old folks to comment on the past vs now on all the Presidents they have seen and lived through.  Good article tho.
Voting  for  a  Democrat  is  insane given  that the  Democrats  have  caused  this  economic  crisis (read Business Week's Robert Berner  and Brian Grow  article today  on "Some  say ..." Judge  Ruth  Bader  Ginsburg,  in  April 2007,  has  de  facto  blocked  all  51  U.S.  states  from  protecting themselves  from unwise   mortage  lending,  like  Wachovia's! She  put  the  Office of Comptroller  and  Currency  in  charge  of it,  instead. The Clinton  appointee,  Mr Hawke, was elected and  he  staunchly  upheld  the  state  non-interference  in  mortage  lending.  We  all know  the  rest  of  the  story,  and  why  we  need  a  Republican  President!
Apparently, none of these people are Black. Blacks voted Republican all the way to MLK, who was a Republican as well. Democrats are not about change, unfortunately, they are as complicit in the WAR as the Republicans are. Nader '08 because it is time to know WHY we are voting, not just because my father voted. I have my own mind and do not believe in the silly debates that answer NOTHING. Two suits talking and talking and talking, and none of it can be taken on face value. They lie so much. I am glad we have the internet so that we can check the facts before we vote blindly based on some parties that have truly outlived their usefulness. That is about the size of it.
If the devil came along and said he was a democrat there would people who would vote for him,  If the devil came and said he was republican there would be people who would vote for him.  What total stupidity.
 You have one now who is running that is a pure socialist, although he doesn't call him self that. His policies say that he is.
Enjoyed Mr. Neilsens' personal glimpes of Ike and
Mamie. I liked Ike too!! He was an extra special man.
Congrats to the "youngsters" who have broken 100 yrs.!
I come from the same era, but thank goodness my parents broke from tradition--they taught my brother
and I,you thoroughly inform yourself about the issues
and the candidates, then vote for the person you feel
will do the best job regardless of the party. I def-
inetly will NOT be voting Democrat--NO WAY!!!!
My father did the same.  He would have been 92 today and he, and a whole generation like him, was grateful to FDR for saving the country.  FDR pulled the US out of a depression and took us through WWII successfully.  So my Dad would have never voted any other way.  And I have to say he was deeply disappointed that his two sons became Republicans.
A grand story about wisdom, and people of age. What a wonderful president eisehower story too.We all would be much better off if we listened to our parents, it's a very changing and different world, yes more about this would be very interesting, after all centarians have lived through it all.My wife and I had a wonderful geandmother she lived till she was 108 years young, and she had wisdom beyond belief. In this very diverse world we need a mixture of young and old explaining what needs to be done. I am sure Eisenhower and his family promoting student ambassadors, along with his desire to help boy scouts is because as we all do we try to give back more than we had growing up.
I MAY BE ON THE WRONG PAGE TO SEND A MESSAGE BUT I'LL TRY ANY HOW. MAT INTERVIEWED A PERSON WHO DISCUSSES THE MATTER OF POSITIVE THINKING DURING THESE TRYING TIMES. MY QUESTION IS THIS , HOW DO I GET MY TWO GROWN DAUGHTERS TO REALIZE THAT MONEY DOESN'T GROW ON TREES NOR DO I HAVE SUCH AN ABUNDANCE TO SHARE W/THEM FOR THEIR ENTIRE LIFE. I AM A DISABELED VETERAN OF THE VIET NAM WAR AND I DO RECEIVE COMPENSATION FOR THAT.I ALSO AM A PRODUCT OF THE WW2 CHILDREN WHO PRODUCED THESE GIVEAWAY IDEAS TO MY OWN CHILDREN.BABY BOOMERS HAVE ARRIVED AT THE AGE OF RETIREMENT NOW.PLEASE DISCUSS W/MAT ,I AM WATCHING AS WE SPEAK. RICHARD A WATERS (RCHRD_WATERS@YAHOO.COM)
I am a Republican.  And for the life of me I can't figure out why NBC is not covering the Acorn scandal!  And why are they so PRO Obama.  I guess Fox News has the only honest and fair news coverage.
It is a nice story,and i regard it as a story!
check out this website www.real-wishes.com
I may be not techo-sauvy and I know my comment here is not in respomse to this article, but I could not find a place to respond to a segment Ann Curry did this AM.  She was asking a group of undecided voters if they knew any people who wouldn't vote for Obama because he is black and isn't that racist.  Is it equally racist to vote for him ONLY because he IS black?
10-16-08
This morning on the 'Today" show, as well as others, there was a considerable amount of coverage on 'Joe the Plumber.'
This got my train of thought going as all news goes these days on the upcoming election.
If you have followed the debates, as we all have,trying to decipher who is debating with the best talent, and who might actually keep these promises after the move into the White House, follow me on this fantasy.
Since it is much too late to actually run Joe the Plumber for president, figure out a way to make him the advisor on the issues to both cantidates and let's see if he can explain things that will actually work! If you want to know what the common working class people need, why are there no advisors to the cantidates who are common, working class people?
One says he grew up in a fatherless home and so he knows how hard it is; the other was a longtime military man and so he knows how hard it is, and I'm sure they both do. I do not wish to detract in any way from either mans accomplishments, but which one of you lives there now, and in todays economy?
I think the answer is obvious, Joe does.
If he could follow all the way to the White House, when the members of Congress are trying to decide how to help, Joe could find the member who is quietly trying to decide whether to buy medicine for a loved one, or one more weeks worth of groceries, or even money to go the doctor since you have no health insurance. Oh wait, there may not be anyone actually in congress who has to make that decision. I believe all the members of our government have some pretty strong benefits locked in for their health care.
Maybe Joe will need to move on to the government official who is trying to figure out how many gallons of gas they will need to purchase to go back and forth to a job that may pay two dollars more per hour than the cost of a gallon of gas. Wait, that won't help. Do any government officials actually have to have the transportation that they are provided stop those vehicles at the local mini mart so they can top off the tank?
Hmmmm...How about if he goes to the one who stayed up late last night packing because his home has been forclosed on and he has to find an affordable rental home to throw into the mix of "which bills to we pay this week, and which have two or three more days in the grace period of five days" before the threatening phone calls start? Sorry, that won't work either. That scenario isn't likely to happen to someone who has put the guidelines in place after their mortgage was secure.
I guess what I am trying to point out is this; you would not send 'Joe the Plumber' to perform surgery on a ruptured aortic valve. At least not unless he could do a passably good job at it for about 90% less than the surgeon would. So, why are we sending people to Washington to rework Social Security benefits, when not one of them has to live on the 1000.00 or under that most of our Senior Citizens do?
On every debate I have watched they have groups of average people on the stage who as far as I can tell simply provide a segway in the form of a question, that either person will answer with "My opponent doesn't know how do deal with this, but I do..."
I don't really see that either of the choices are going to make a big difference. No matter who is elected, they will go to Washington and work with the people whose thought processes on these things will not be different, because they have no basis for comparison.
So since we can't realistically vote for Joe, and we don't have any other choice that is practical, it seems we wind up praying and pushing a button and just leaving it in God's hands. Just be careful about that praying in public thing, that has not been an option for a long time now. Did we vote on that?
Like I said, it is fantasy, but am I really the only one who just might "Vote for Joe?"
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AT 93 & 96 YEARS TWO OF THE OLDEST LIVING BLUES LEGENDS, DAVID 'HONEYBOY' EDWARDS AND PINETOP PERKINS
REFLECT ON VOTING ON THE PLANTATION, REMEMBERING VOTING THE WAY THE WAY THEY WANTED THEM TO VOTE, REFLECTING ON THE NOMINATION OF OBAMA... THE OCTOBER ISSUE OF LIVING BLUES MAGAZINE FEATURES A NUMBER OF BLUES VETERANS AND THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE PAST AND THIS ELECTION.  HONEYBOY EDWARDS WAS MOST RECENTLY INTERVIEWED ON WISCONSIN PUBLIC RADIO REGARDING THE FREEDOM TO VOTE & HOW AMERICA & DEMOCRACY HAS CHANGED OVER THE LAST 70 YEARS.  ON NOVEMBER 7TH JUST THREE DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION, HONEYBOY & PINETOP WILL PERFORM TOGETHER FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN AT THE SYMPHONY CENTER IN DALLAS, TEXAS AS A PART OF THE BLUE SHOE PROJECT, WWW.BLUESHOEPROJECT.ORG FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH.
THIS COULD BE A HISTORIC MOMENT FOR THIS INTERGENERATIONAL GROUP.  A MOMENT OF HOPE & CHANGE THROUGH THE STORIES, SONGS & MEMORIES OF TWO BLUES LEGENDS, DAVID'HONEYBOY' EDWARDS AND PINETOP PERKINS,
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LAST OF THE GREAT MISSISSIPPI DELTA BLUESMEN~LIVE IN DALLAS WON THE 2008 GRAMMY FEATURING, HONEYBOY, PINETOP, ROBERT LOCKWOOD JR. AND HENRY 'THE MULE' TOWNSEND. HONEYBOY IS THE LAST OF THE RUNNING PACK WHO WAS WITH ROBERT JOHNSON THE NIGHT HE DIED....
Hello all:

Just a thought, How are soldiers fighting for our country supposed to vote absentee when their is no means of a mail system?? (ie. Afghanistan and other countries where we have troop presence that is not covered so much in the media)  There are thousands of troops in such countries and they have no means of mailing an absentee ballot!!!  Please address this ASAP, before its too late,  I would be interested to hear either party, democrat or republican, candidate's views on this matter.  We have a number of men and women serving our country that are in very remote areas and have no access to mail, or even the internet.  Thank you.

Sincerely, a soldier's wife,
Anonymous
Fort Bragg, North Carolina


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