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Two WWII POWs recall two very different experiences

Posted: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:46 PM by Jen Brown
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From John Rutherford, Producer, NBC News, Washington

On D-Day, June 6, 1944, Ben Trimboli, who turned 100 years old on March 15, was one of the first American soldiers into Normandy, crash-landing in a glider.

Family photo
Ben Trimboli in the Army circa 1943.
"We had more casualties landing with gliders," the former Army private said in a recording of his World War II experiences. "Those fields were all full of stumps and wires and everything. I unbuckled [just before impact] because I knew we were making a nosedive, and I landed on top of the pilot and copilot, who were dead. Getting out of the glider, the Germans were shooting at us, and we were firing back."

Ben and his fellow members of the 82nd Airborne Division fought the Germans foxhole to foxhole, field to field for three days, until June 9, when Ben's luck ran out.

"I got hit with a hand grenade," he said. "I saw my leg go up in the air, and there was all of this shrapnel behind my knee. The Germans came over and told the guys that could walk - they all gave up - to pick up the wounded and take them to the back."

Ben and the other wounded G.I.'s were put in a shelter along with wounded German soldiers.

"French girls were feeding them, and we were all the way in the back, so they came over and said, 'Oh, there are Americanos, Americanos.' They wanted to feed us first, but we told them, 'No, we're the prisoners, feed the other German soldiers that are wounded.' So they fed them, and after they got through eating, they came over and gave us the same bowl and poured soup in that bowl, and we had to eat it there, too."

Ben was a prisoner of war from June 9 until June 28, 1944, when he was freed by American forces. All in all, he said, the Germans weren't all that bad.

"They treated us all right," he told me recently. "They helped all of us wounded soldiers."

War in a concentration camp
Michael Stoney's treatment by the Germans was much harsher. A captain in the Polish army, Stoney, who turned 100 on Aug. 8, was captured soon after World War II broke out on Sept. 1, 1939.

Michael Stoney on his 100th birthday, Aug. 8, 2008
"They put me in a concentration camp," Michael said in a recent interview. "I was Polish and they probably thought that I might be spying for Poland or England."

Michael once told his daughter-in-law that "1,000 went in, but only seven came out."

"It was very bad, you see," he told me, "because there was hunger, hard work - very hard work - and all the imaginable persecution which happened."

I asked him how he managed to survive.

"I was forced to work in the field, agriculture field," he said. "I worked very hard, very hard, and they acknowledged that. They treated me as a good laborer."

Fortunately, both Ben's and Michael's stories have happy endings.

Ben's leg mended, and he returned home in February 1945 to Brooklyn, N.Y., where he married and raised two children. A retired bricklayer, he lives today in Potomac, Md.

Michael lived in England after the war, then emigrated to America. He married, raised a family and worked as a masseur at the Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami. He now lives in Lake Placid, Fla., with Jenny, his wife of 52 years.
 
Ben and Michael were two of the centenarians featured by Willard Scott on NBC's "Today" show. If you know of any centenarians who've had a brush with history over the past century, please tell us a little bit about them in the comments section below and be sure to fill in your return e-mail address so we can get back to you for more details.

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America needs more hero's like this man
My Uncle, George Johnson, wasn't the age of these two gents but he also was a German POW during WWII and i have a written account of his time there, it wasn't good to say the least! They ate a watery soup and a hard dark bread, one time they found a horses tooth in the soup! The fleas in the barracks were so bad that everyone had read bite marks all over their bodies! They were forced to work on a rock pile making big rocks into small rocks! He and his fellow prosoners were freed by the advancing Russian Army! He passed away this summer at age 84! Would have been 85 last month! I might add that while a POW Both i-his nephew-and his oldest son were born six days apart in October of 1943!
Thank You
My Mother was born on August31st1908. We all the fsmily that could make it there. enjoyed being there for her. Her mother lived to be 103.
Mike, I agree with you that we need more hero's...My grandfather was my hero. Walked across N. Africa, Sicily, Italy and Europe in the Big Red One (1st Infantry Div.) Hes the reason I spent 20 years in the 502nd Par Inf / 75th Ranger Rgt...

We have a hero running for president and he has my vote. John McCain...
I had 3 uncle's that fought in ww11. One was in the Navy,one was in the Army and one was in the Army also. My one uncle was in a liberaion unit that went in and released the P.O.W.'s. What he saw was so  horrific and he saw the dead bodies in piles and the oven's the German's used to cremate the remains of all kinds of people like the Jewish people,handicaped people,and other people that Adolf Hitler din't want them in Society and wanted a pure race. My other uncle was put on a traind in box car's with other P.O.W.s where they blew up with dynamite every other box car but his box car was not  blown up and he spent the rest of his time as a P.O.W. My other uncle that was in the liberation I'm not completley sure about my uncle that was in the Navy exepet I think I was told he was in the war with the Japenese at Midway.
I agree with you eric -- mcCain is a hero -- he has my vote as well.
My father was an All American running back for L.S.U. with a promising career of going pro in football when word came that Pearl Harbor had been attacked. He told me that the entire football team quit and joined the service. My dad joined the Coast Guard and served his country until 1946. He also joined the Army during Korea - earning a Bronze Star.

As a child growing up in the 60's, I can remember that although he would NEVER talk about his experiences of either war, he suffered from nightmares until he passed away.

He served as the superintendent of Oklahoma Military Academy in Claremore, Okla. and later founded Oklahoma Aerospace Academy until his sudden death from a heart attack at the age of 52.

His heart was always with his patriotic values, his  love for our country and for the boys that he helped to develop into men, some of which served in Vietnam and later Desert Storm.  He was truly a silent hero.

My personal opinion is that we should have continued our focus on Bin Laden, but I am STILL not completely convinced that the intelligence concerning Iraq was totally incorrect. If they were able to ship millions of dollars, etc. out of their country, who is to say that the "weapons of mass destruction" didn't go the same route. Especially due to the fact that they had plenty of warning - thanks to our media..

Either way, God Bless all of our service men and women who are daily putting their lives on the line (voluntarily) and to the personnel in THIS country who work day and night to keep us safe from another attack like 9/11.

This isn't about politics or whether or not the war was right or wrong. This is about keeping us SAFE and FREE.

Also God Bless John McCain for having the courage to talk about his personal experiences as a POW in front of millions of viewers. It makes me ashamed to read some of the liberal commentaries that have been in the news media downplaying John McCain's story.

P.S. My father did get to complete his dream and played professional football for a short while. He later decided that his focus should be on education and what he could still contribute to his country.
The current war is the first time in my family's history that we haven't had an immediate family member in harm's way.  My Grandfather served in the navy at the tail end of WWI.  My other Grandfather served on the USS Hyman in WWII, and has stories to tell of kamikaze attacks, etc., 3 uncles served in Korea, one uncle served on a Sub in the Bay of Pigs incident, my dad served in Vietnam, and my cousin served in the first gulf war.  My brother-in-law is in the Air Force, but is currently stateside in fighter training.  

Anyone who has served in any way, be it peace-time or war-time is a hero.  They are the reason that we have the freedoms that we have.  

I see people calling McCain a hero,I worked with a few heroes and none called themselves that.
The most notable was a survivor of the Bataan death march who considered himself a survivor and not a hero.
The other that I called a hero was a young man named John Tedder from Pinckneyville IL.
He served three times in Nam, had a row of dimples caused by a ak 47 and a chest full of medals.
The sad part is that he died of cancer while in his 40's because of agent ornge
Both of my Grandfathers fought WWI, my father was with MacArthur to liberate the PI's, my mother's cousin was at Guadal Canal and spent 2 days hiding underneath a dead Japanese soldier on the beach to avoid capture...yes, he killed that Japanese soldier and plenty more. His uncle, General Simon Buckner Jr. was killed during the final push toward Japan, my older brother lost a finger and nearly his life in Viet Nam. Now, none were POW's, but all good soldiers, all good Americans, and...Republicans.
The world is becoming a very scary place and there are alot of groups who hate America and have for a long time so you can't blame W. for it.
Who do you think is going to make the best effort to protect America and her interests...McCain
back when i was a young pup right after the war my brother an i were playing on the lawn when a convertable drove in to our yard.(i was born an raised in tolland connecticut know live in new springfield,ohio.)this person was a diccharged millitary man as we found out later who was looking for my grandfathers farm which was up the street.he was looking for my aunt judy ridzon who was a wak discharged at that time also.in recent years my uncle darrell stark who lives in stafford springs connecticut satrted talking about his pow experence in the phillipians.pow for three years and know has written a book about it.the book my journey as i remember written by darrell stark was about his pow years.
JUST AWESOME!!! You guys are part of the reason why our country is so great. Thank You for everything and Happy Birthday to you both.
And to think that those in Gitmo have it so bad. These people are hero's. I like McCain but is not the reason I would vote for someone to be president. Just because he was a POW? We need more.
But to these people? They are great people and deserve honor and our respect.
How can anyone pass judgement on another form just hear say. I spent 34 years in the Air Force, and was trained and ready to go when and where I was called to do what was asked of me. My grandfather was in WW1 and by uncles in WW2, pow's and some where wounded. No one really knows the hardships these people went through. God Bless you both.
Both of my Grandfather's also fought in WWI, my Dad was in the Navy during Vietnam and still can't talk about what he saw. My brother is in the Air Force, serving in Iraq right now. I have so much respect for these men, and am blessed that they have the courage to represent our country and fight for the freedoms that you and I enjoy.
Thank you all for the memories that are so important for all of to remember.  
My one true love died in WW2.I miss him so much and love hum so much.It makes me so sad to think of what we could have had,and the suffering he went through.Governments prey on young people to do their dirty work and be injured or killed,while they sit comfy cozy at home, safe and sound with their families.It makes me SICK!!!!!!!
My dad enlisted in the Navy shortly after Pear Harbor. Though the story remained "hazy" or never really clear he did loose a leg after his destroyer was sunk at Guadalcanal. He would never talk about  the experience. After the war he moved to Michigan from West Virgina, married his sweetheart from Aplin W.VA. and raised a family of three. He struggled physically with his "wooden leg" but worked every day possible to support his family. His drive and determination had a great impact on me. When I see the Mitsubishi trade mark and Toyota name I think of Pear Harbor and "all the rest". I can not help but  think that somewhere there is at one or two folks from Japan that feel pretty good about the much more subltle attack and victories that the Japan has won over US industry and specifically the automobile industry. Drive the streets and neighborhoods of Detroit or any other US automobile city and you will see the "war". Even in their war of words of "jobs created" the truth is that for every one job "created here" we loose 10 US jobs. The money, the profit, the victory all go back to Japan. War is never pretty and the seeds of war are never "over". I read above that no one really knows the hardships these people went through and I agree. The pain that my dad went through 66 years ago still lingers....and he passed away almost 10yrs ago.
John, you're insane.
i  would like to say thank you
When did this conversation stop being about the amazing sacrifice of American heros who defended our nation and start being political (presidential candiates and the auto industry)?  Come on people, let's just (for once) engage in being one America on this most hallowed of days.  United we stand, divided we fall.
True heroes don't feel the need to brag like McCain. My father was a POW in Germany for 9 months until the liberation in 1945, shot down in his B17. He had nightmares until he died at the young age of 51 - I was only 19 and still miss him as I turn 54 in a few weeks. He did what he had to do to survive and his time in the camp made his sick both physically and emotionally. He didn't like to talk about it and never got the psychological therapy he should have had and they wanted him to have. And, as much as I respect anyone who served in the military, it doesn't make them smarter or more "moral" or better people or qualify them to make better decisions that affect all of us. And, how come MCCain voted against the new GI bill - saying that it was too generous and would be enticing soldiers to leave the military. They deserve a very generous GI bill in my mind.
Several family members have served in both times of peace and times of war. Three of my grandfathers served in WWII -- my adopted mom's dad in the U.S. Army, my birth dad's dad in the U.S. Navy, and my birth mom's dad in the German Luftwaffe. Opa was a POW for a short time. He immigrated to the U.S. in 1950, reported to the draft board as required, and wanted to serve in Korea ... but could not due to injuries.

I spend a lot of time around veterans, mostly Vietnam veterans. There are some who have done heroic deeds, but none would call themselves heroes. They -- even the two I know who were POWs (one WWII, one Korea) -- just say they were doing their job. I consider anyone who has honorably served in our military as heroes, and yes, certainly Mr. Trimboli and Mr. Stoney.
To Edward Cullen- John's remarks are not insane. The fact is that the Japan has never apologized for Pearl Harbor will America has and also given money to Japan for protecting america during the Pearl Harbor Attack.  

My father served in Nam and was shot down.  He was proud to have served but had an over protective attitude for protecting his family and kids.  My sister later enlisted in the Army and he was not really happy with her choice.  He would alway tell us that the government does not take care of its Vets.  And that was very true.  He died at the have of 55,  but I never once heard him call himself a hero and even his friends that are Nam Vet never called themselves heroes. McCain does not understand what being a VET really is.  The first order is to take care of your military while and after they are serving.
What's the auto industry have anything to do with this???
I agree with Patricia, true heroes are humble and don't brag. I respect and thank all the veterans, there are some who did not receive a warm welcome back to the states after they did what their country asked of them. All of them deserve a thank you from all wars.
I realize how hard it is, for anyone who hasn't served or had a family memeber serve, to understand the patriotism a soldier or his family feels. My family has served this country for generations, my grandfathers both fought in WWII, one in Baton Death March, my father served during the Korean, as did my uncles, my brothers, cousins all served, and my sisters and I all married military. Yes, I am a military wife, daughter, sister, niece and granddaughter. I am proud that my family has fought for generations to keep America the Land of the Free, and to protect others from tyrany and persecution. It is these families and the likes of Ben Trimboli & Michael Stoney, who allow us to decide who will run our country, who we will buy our automobiles from and how we will live our live's. So to all who don't know what true patriotism is, I am sorry for you.toni
The Treatment of US troops taken prisioner by the Germans varied greatly according to the German Officers in charge, and the conditions at the time.

Canadian POWs were often mistreated and in some instances massacred due to long standing beefs between Canadian and German troops that went back to WW1.

At least one high ranking German officer escaped the dealth penalty for killing a wounded American officer when the victim's fellow officers testified that they had asked the German to perform a mercy killing since the man was blown in half and in horrible agony.
The Same German was later murdered by a Frenchman in vengence for his murders of French Prisoners.

On one occasion a squad of German SS troops refused orders to execute French Civilian Hostages and the Wermach high command took custody of the men and demanded that they be given a fair trial. The SS mutiners were not guilty by German law and the defense of this men laid the legal basis for the Nuremburg trials. The concept that a soldier had the duty to refuse an unlawful order was established by that case.

Another SS rifle company composed of Muslim conscripts also mutinied for similar reasons and fought a two week battle against incredible odds, fighting to the last man.
The French named a street in Paris after them.
Both my grandfathers served in the Army in WW1.  After the war my mother's father worked as a machinist in the Navy yard in DC and wanted to join the Army again after Pearl Harbor.  They wouldn't let him because he had two children and was deaf in one ear and partially deaf in the other from shelling in France (not to mention his age).  He was so angry that they wouldn't take him.  My father and uncle served in WW2; my father in the Army and my uncle in the Navy.  Dad quit Penn State as a pre-med student and joined on 1/2/42 (his mother wouldn't let him join until after the holidays).  He spoke German so they shipped him to China (go figure!).  He fought with Chinese troops behind enemy lines for almost two years.  He wouldn't talk much about the war.  He used to have nightmares and break out in sweats and fever from malaria.  He lost all his teeth by age 50 due to poor nutrition from eating rice almost exclusively for two years, and had a terrible ear infection from some jungle rot that they had to use radiation to kill because antibiotics in the 1940's didn't work.  He joined the PA National Guard for extra money and was called up during Korea.  Six of my nine nephews and nieces (the other three are still too young) have been or are in the military and have served from Bosnia to Afganistan today.  My oldest nephew just retired from the Army this year.  Thanks, Granpas, Dad, Uncle Harry and all you kids.  The country is proud of you.  I know I am.
Patricia, while it is true that John McCain did vote against the enhanced G.I. Bill it was only because he supported another bill that not only increased veterans benefits but also made sure that the benefits increased based on how long someone served.  It was not a ploy to limit what was given to veterans, but a reward and incentive for continued, honorable service.  As for his experiences as a P.O.W.  I believe that he has more than earned the right to tell his stories, if you dont like it then dont listen.  But before you call names or tell half truthes remember that it is because of him and others like him that you have the rights you do and that you can live in the Greatest Country in the world.

Pete Blanchard
Petty Officer Second Class U.S.N.
2000-2007
I've never heard John McCain brag about his service or his time as a pow. He has answered the questions the media has asked about his servie But NEVER have I heard him call himself a hero. Even though he truly is.
Hello, I'm trying to get in touch with someone who was in the 82nd Airborne division with my Father-In-Law, Phillip David Engle also in the camp.  Can anyone help us?  Thank you.
World war 2 was the good war and japs deserve what they got! I never will buy an imported car! As for my military stint naval reserve! That was my way of beating the draft. My older brother pulled strings just in time for me to enlist the the reserve (two years active duty) I had to live with a lot of drunks and drugers officers included. Although far more were enlisted personnel Thank God! If they ever bring the draft back I'll be out there selling the weed and what ever else drug i can get so you will flunk the physical! I have never used those drugs but watched the enlisted personnel smoke them on the main deck of the ship! I might add they did this in front of the captain and officers of the ship! I asked the captain and officers what they were doing. Just to pour salt on their wounds (officers).Dennis Emerine New Riegel,ohio 44853
My uncle Warren was a POW in Germany, escaped, recaptured and he is still kicking today!Another Uncle was in China and saw the results of the Japanese Imperial Army! Today, Japan is a economic power!  This is one reason I feel we owe no apology to Japan for anything!
I was proud to train to be a soldier in our Army, and am proud of all the men and women serving now.  We must all come together to keep each other safe from those that try to take our freedoms--I am proud to be an American and hope we will always remain free.
Ben and Michael, God Bless them in their century of life, and for their service. As a nation are truly blessed by those who we cannot fully repay. A combat veteran or POW can offer invaluable life experience, whether it be as a neighbor or friend, co-worker, or as President of the United States. God Bless our vets for their daily sacrifices, their past sacrifices, and for their eternal sacrifices.    
HI BEN.
YOU ARE A HERO ,BIG TIME SO PROUD OF YOU .MY MOM LOST TWO OF HER SON'S FROM THE EFECTS OF THE WAR ,AND I LOST MY HUSBAND ,HE WAS ONLY 19 YEARS OLD I KEEP HIS FLAG IN MY BEDROOM ON MY CEDER CHEST THAT HOLDS MEMORIES ,OF HIM ,AND ALTHOUGH MY MOM LOST HER HUSBAND ,AND 5 SONS IN ALL,SHE WAS TOUGH ,SHE LIVED TO BE 109.HANG IN THERE BEN ,MY HERO .YOU WILL TOO.
GOD BLESS YOU AND AMERICA.
As for myself I think all VETS are hero's. Whether they were on the line , in the back serving chow, at a typewriter or at a MESH unit up front~ all were ready to go in "harms way" when called. Yes Mc Cain is a hero and getting the most out of it for himself but my thoughts always go back to Larry- a young Marine I help treat in a Naval Hospital during the Korean  War Era  ( anyone remeber that WAR?)who had been hit with a phosphate  grenade- God! He was a the most  bravest  young man I ever met while in the Navy Medical Service. I often think about him "this hero" and hope he had a great life! One of many!
This year at college I took a speech class and our focus was on the Korean War. I'm 23 years old and have gone to private schools my whole and don't ever recall this MAJOR event. I was worreid about my grade in the class but after interviewing Mr. E.G. Walker, and Air Force Pilot, all I was really worried about was doing him and his story justice. I met a lot of different men that day and will always cherish it till the day I die. Many thanks to all who have served our country.
I have a 1 dollar bill that a solider wrote every important date on, arrival in England to back to US, it cover several years while he was in Europe. I'd love to return it to the family but where do I start to match dates/places/units. Any ideas let me know, please.
Vote for McCain? This article has nothing to do with the guy. McCain a Hero? My father flew 25 combat missions in WWII. Eight air medals, Distinguised Flying Cross, three Presidential Unit Citations, French Legion of Merit, D-Day, Invasion of Holland, Crossing of the Rhine, Liberation of Paris, European Victory medal. McCain lost two aircraft and got his butt shot down. Who is the hero?  
BEN & MICHAEL.....MAY YOU LIVE LOTS OF MORE YEARS, TO COME...!!
HOW PROUD YOUR FAMILIES MUST BE OF BOTH OF YOU...!!
MAY GOD KEEP YOU BOTH & YOUR FAMILIES HAPPY, HEATHLY AND SAFE....!! I ADMIRE YOU BOTH...!!
Patricia, while it is true that John McCain did vote against the enhanced G.I. Bill it was only because he supported another bill that not only increased veteran’s benefits but also made sure that the benefits increased based on how long someone served.  It was not a ploy to limit what was given to veterans, but a reward and incentive for continued, honorable service.  As for his experiences as a P.O.W.  I believe that he has more than earned the right to tell his stories, if you don’t like it then don’t listen.  But before you call names or tell half truths remember that it is because of him and others like him that you have the rights you do and that you can live in the Greatest Country in the world.

Pete Blanchard
Petty Officer Second Class U.S.N.
2000-2007
McCain isn't bragging.  People who know him and his story are bragging on him.  He is just keeping his story clear from being over done.  He never claimed to be a hero, just a man willing to do his part for his country.  This country needs a hero badly.  Try Jesus Christ.  Thank you to all who have served and to all that are now serving.  When we see our military around town, stop and thank them for their service.
Matt,Meredith and Brian also fundamentally you guys
are probably nice people but when in the midst of
spreading unsubstantiated false stories to make the Democratic Party look good, when if you were to do
some investigative reporting you'd find that Chris
Dodd (D) commission wroteand pushed for the present   regulations in the banking industry which are flawed.  Follow the money who are the big contributors to the Democratic Party. It is truly amazing that people like you let the establishment    
dictate what you report on the air and how can you
look you self in the mirror. You were given a brain,
use it investigate the stories or rummors you want
to spread to the public instead of like the politicians in Washington only using them gain
more power, more money and in the end they look and
sound like the losers they are. Obama was pushed into
the State Senate to have a majority to pass the bills
that the mayor of Chicago (Daily) and the GOvenor
wanted passed or Chicago "such as Gambling", he did
NOTHING for Illinois only approved bills to provide
Chicago more money to waste. Don't be PUPPET Matt
use the education you have search out the TRUTH
don't be a "Dan Rather".

Ref: Senator McCain's comments concerning AIG debacle (pending), i.e no bailout for AIG. Does this mean that if the government doesn't act and AIG fails, millions of people will lose their life insurance?  If this is true, why not bail out AIG for the sake of the people insured by that company? I am a lifetime Republican and retired military officer, and I am rethinking the former! In planning for my retirement, like many of my fellow servicemen and civilian neighbors, I bought into a seemingly reasonable/prudent equation for ensuring retirement security for my family:  savings accounts, some permanent life insurance(AIG bought out my insurance company several years ago), and mutual funds.  But now this "three-legged financial security stool," as it was logically touted, is in jeopardy.  We all know what's happening to the stock market, and AIG is on the chopping block.   Cash Savings accounts(probably also tenuous) seems destined to soon be the only leg left standing. If this occurs "somebody" had better plus up the social security fund, because a lot of folks are going to be in trouble.
my father was in khobar towers bombing when i was about 3 or 4 im 14 now i just want to say to anyone who knows anyone that was there im sorry what happend to your family member
Amazing how people can take such an awesome story and turn it into true ignorance.  This isn't about who is voting for who, but about these great Americans who fought for "us".  Start another blog so you can argue amongst each other.


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